09-21-2009, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Canadi-Phin
11 catches for 108 yards, last time I checked that was good night.
Talk to the defense and see who they think loast the game when the Colts had the ball for 14 min.
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Who cares, he dropped the game winning touchdown pass and from what I heard could have gotten another big play but failed. Also, Ginn dropped another pass in the fourth quarter that could have cost us big. Eleven catches mean nothing when your failures played a big part in your team losing the game. If Pennington threw for 300 yards but lost the game with a pick 6 in the 4th quarter, we'd be criticizing him too.
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09-21-2009, 11:56 PM
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Huge wimp, I totally agree. 11 catches for 108 yards is a good game. Where the hell was Fasano? Cam? Bess? No where. To blame him for a drop and losing the game, come on. Do I think he should of caught the first one, hell yeah. But who cost us the game was our defense, they should be absokutely ashamed of themselves. Brutal effort. 14 min, that's it. That's all it took for the Colts to score 27 pts. It wasn't even on the rookies but Gibril Wilson, Cahnning Crowder and Will Allen.
We aren't in this game without 11 catches for 8 first downs, many of which are 3rd downs. Get off his ***. How about Penny running the worst 2 min drill ever. I've seen High school up here in Canada run a better 2 min drill.
As usual everyone wants to blame Ginn, the guy is a *****, I'm not arguing that but him costing us the game. Nice try. Oh and for the comment 10 yards a catch. What is Penny throwing to him. He made the catches all night. Oh and the 2nd one. Probably should of had it but that was also PI.
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09-22-2009, 12:09 AM
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I'm sorry but while Ginn had a good night...he's expected to catch a pass that hits his hands...notice I wrote hands!!
If someone would have told me that the Dolphins would get over 400 yds on offense, control the football for 45 mins...and still lose...I would have said the're crazy....well tonight I'm crazy!!
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09-22-2009, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Canadi-Phin
11 catches for 108 yards, last time I checked that was good night.
Talk to the defense and see who they think loast the game when the Colts had the ball for 14 min.
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It is a good night, but it is not a clutch performance. He drop two touchdown throws and an important 1st 10 that should of been a completion. The posters that state that he sucks are just reacting emotionally. Clearly, he was key to the offensive production. He just blew his opportunity to be seen as a top flight receiver where the QB can depend upon him to make the game winning catch.
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09-22-2009, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Canadi-Phin
Huge wimp, I totally agree. 11 catches for 108 yards is a good game. Where the hell was Fasano? Cam? Bess? No where. To blame him for a drop and losing the game, come on. Do I think he should of caught the first one, hell yeah. But who cost us the game was our defense, they should be absokutely ashamed of themselves. Brutal effort. 14 min, that's it. That's all it took for the Colts to score 27 pts. It wasn't even on the rookies but Gibril Wilson, Cahnning Crowder and Will Allen.
We aren't in this game without 11 catches for 8 first downs, many of which are 3rd downs. Get off his ***. How about Penny running the worst 2 min drill ever. I've seen High school up here in Canada run a better 2 min drill.
As usual everyone wants to blame Ginn, the guy is a *****, I'm not arguing that but him costing us the game. Nice try. Oh and for the comment 10 yards a catch. What is Penny throwing to him. He made the catches all night. Oh and the 2nd one. Probably should of had it but that was also PI.
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Dude, Davone Bess was there for a sweet sideline reception to keep the drive going on second and twenty. It was a huge play. Bess, Cam, and Fasano weren't there because their number wasn't called. Also, Ginn was in single coverage which means that they may have been picked up by the safeties. If we would have handed the ball off to Ronnie and he would have fumbled, it wouldn't have been Ricky's fault and it's not the other receivers' faults because we didn't call their number at that particular time. Fasano was a goat last week and despite Ginn's good numbers, he's still the one who failed to execute when it mattered and he's a goat as well.
And maybe Ginn's YPC was low because he didn't make any of the several big plays that were there for him.
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09-22-2009, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by fishypete
I'm sorry but while Ginn had a good night...he's expected to catch a pass that hits his hands...notice I wrote hands!!
If someone would have told me that the Dolphins would get over 400 yds on offense, control the football for 45 mins...and still lose...I would have said the're crazy....well tonight I'm crazy!!
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Peyton Manning is one of the few QBs that could win with so few plays, but you are correct that Ginn should have made that catch to win the game. Ginn played better than I have seen him play. I continue to hope to see improvement from week to week. Week 1 to Week 2 was a clear improvement.
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09-22-2009, 12:22 AM
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Get off his back coaching and Defense lost this game...nobody is talking about a running play on 3rd and 6 to set up for a FG or that horrible 2 min drill aint have nothing to do with Ginn. Should never be put in position to have to make that play make a dayum tackle, stop somebody with the dayum lead. Maybe we lost cause Peyton threw for 50 leven yards
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09-22-2009, 12:26 AM
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There was no pain when he dropped it, that's what irritates me. I'm still looking for a roster with some sort of resemblance to the ultra determined early '70s squads, guys who would have been devastated with a failure like that. Instead, you've got a Ted Ginn bouncing up and slapping his hands together, like "Darn I missed it." He's the same guy who spiked the ball in celebration after a catch in the Baltimore playoff game, when Miami was driving while trailing big.
The past two Super Bowls have demonstrated the need for premier receivers. Moss, Plaxico, Fitzgerald and Holmes made huge plays for TDs in the final 2 minutes. Or maybe Moss's catch was slightly outside 2 minutes. Regardless, the point stands. We're pretending with the group we have.
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09-22-2009, 12:29 AM
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There was no pain when he dropped it, that's what irritates me. I'm still looking for a roster with some sort of resemblance to the ultra determined early '70s squads, guys who would have been devastated with a failure like that. Instead, you've got a Ted Ginn bouncing up and slapping his hands together, like "Darn I missed it." He's the same guy who spiked the ball in celebration after a catch in the Baltimore playoff game, when Miami was driving while trailing big.
The past two Super Bowls have demonstrated the need for premier receivers. Moss, Plaxico, Fitzgerald and Holmes made huge plays for TDs in the final 2 minutes. Or maybe Moss's catch was slightly outside 2 minutes. Regardless, the point stands. We're pretending with the group we have.
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I definitely see some David Tyree-type catch machines on this roster (talking about that one catch, not career) but we need a Plax as well. Ginn was given every opportunity in tonight's game and didn't make the plays that mattered most. That's not championship caliber.
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09-22-2009, 12:34 AM
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Today's loss was mostly the defense's fault, but family boy needs to make those catches in the endzone. If the ball isn't thrown near the sideline where he can catch it and quickly run out of bounds to avoid the hit, forget it.
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09-22-2009, 12:35 AM
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There was no pain when he dropped it, that's what irritates me. I'm still looking for a roster with some sort of resemblance to the ultra determined early '70s squads, guys who would have been devastated with a failure like that. Instead, you've got a Ted Ginn bouncing up and slapping his hands together, like "Darn I missed it."
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What are you talking about? He clearly slammed his hands against the ground in anger.
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09-22-2009, 12:35 AM
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you people that are blaming teddy for us losing are the dumbest people i have ever heard. You guys know nothing about football. He didnt lose us the game. Us not being about the cover a single TE in this league lost us the play as well as that pathetic attempt at a 2 min drill. Fasano dropped a TD why dont you get on his case. The first pass Ted ginn "dropped" was out of his reach and even if he flat out dives to catch it he would have fallen out of bounds, and the second one was also a pretty tough catch. Should he of made it?, yeah but most of the time only the elite WRs in the league step up and make that catch and lets face it hes not one of them. But to blame him for the lose is just down right stupid
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09-22-2009, 12:35 AM
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So everyone is blaming Ginn for dropping 1 but not the Defense for giving up 27?
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09-22-2009, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Canadi-Phin
11 catches for 108 yards, last time I checked that was good night.
Talk to the defense and see who they think loast the game when the Colts had the ball for 14 min.
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Its not to hard to get over 100yrds recieving when the colts are playin the run all night. And its not hard to make the game winning catch when it hits you in the hands.
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09-22-2009, 12:37 AM
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So everyone is blaming Ginn for dropping 1 but not the Defense for giving up 27?
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He dropped 2. The defense is mostly to blame, but that doesn't mean we can't blame family boy as well.
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