Well at Least Beck Beat Out McCown

[WVdolphan]

Originally Posted by TGJ19

Beck cant play second string? shoot, he can be a starter in this league. I bet he would start in KC, Baltimore, Sanfran, St louis, Minny, Chicago and Carolina.

WOW!

IMHO....Croyle > Beck, Huard > Beck
Flacco > Beck, Smith > Beck, Boller > Beck
O'sullivan > Beck, Smith > Beck, Hill(I think thats the 3rd stringer in SF's name) > Beck
Bulger(this has to be a HUGE joke, Bulger is one of the better QBs in this league) MUCH > Beck, Green > Beck
T.Jackson(he does completely blow) but still > Beck, Dont they have Gus as their backup??? Gus > Beck
Grossman and Orton both > Beck
Delhomme(this guy started in the bowl for christ sakes and was injured last year) MUCH > Beck, McCown > Beck, Matt Moore(injured) > Beck

Get real. Beck starting over Bulger or Delhomme is completely laughable. Seriously. The others at least arent good QBs, but still better than Beck.

[endorPHINS72]

And another thing...this crap about "Beck isn't one of the regime's guys, so he never had a chance" is pure crap. Let's see...we have Ted Ginn starting and playing well, not to mention Ronnie Brown coming back and looking good after a terrible injury and other holdovers like Satele, Roth, Will Allen, Yeremiah Bell, Vonnie Holliday, Paul Soliai, Vernon Carey, Channing Crowder, Michael Lehan, Renaldo Hill, etc., etc. all playing well and seeing significant playing time. John Beck isn't starting or even 2nd string right now because he has squandered every opportunity to earn a spot wih the Dolphins. I think the best thing for him is to be out of Miami and try to resurrect his career with another team or maybe the Arena League. Nice young man, but just not an NFL quarterback.

[ronrevog]

Originally Posted by WVdolphan

Welcome to HomerHeaven
Where Ronnie Brown is the 3rd best running back in the league, John Beck was given a raw deal, and Jason Allen is ALWAYS much improved and is about to become a pro bowl DB.

LOL love that sig... so true...

[thefranchisedef]

Originally Posted by WVdolphan

WOW!

IMHO....Croyle > Beck, Huard > Beck
Flacco > Beck, Smith > Beck, Boller > Beck
O'sullivan > Beck, Smith > Beck, Hill(I think thats the 3rd stringer in SF's name) > Beck
Bulger(this has to be a HUGE joke, Bulger is one of the better QBs in this league) MUCH > Beck, Green > Beck
T.Jackson(he does completely blow) but still > Beck, Dont they have Gus as their backup??? Gus > Beck
Grossman and Orton both > Beck
Delhomme(this guy started in the bowl for christ sakes and was injured last year) MUCH > Beck, McCown > Beck, Matt Moore(injured) > Beck

Get real. Beck starting over Bulger or Delhomme is completely laughable. Seriously. The others at least arent good QBs, but still better than Beck.

so you are saying that beck was the best quarterback on the dolphins roster last year? why would joe flacco be better than beck? He has played extremely scared all preseason, he looks lost! you admit beck is better than mccown, lol... He is better than troy smith? then that would make him at least as of now the 4th best quarterback in last years draft..
Croyle is horrible, he is probably one of the most overrated bad quarterbacks in league history.. Alex Smith is a former 1st pick, and has had success in the league and you say beck is better? Last but not least Huard, the guy that never loses-EVER! Beck is better than huard?
Are you a beck hater, ?

[WVdolphan]

Originally Posted by thefranchisedef

so you are saying that beck was the best quarterback on the dolphins roster last year? why would joe flacco be better than beck? He has played extremely scared all preseason, he looks lost! you admit beck is better than mccown, lol... He is better than troy smith? then that would make him at least as of now the 4th best quarterback in last years draft..
Croyle is horrible, he is probably one of the most overrated bad quarterbacks in league history.. Alex Smith is a former 1st pick, and has had success in the league and you say beck is better? Last but not least Huard, the guy that never loses-EVER! Beck is better than huard?
Are you a beck hater, ?

> is a symbol that represents GREATER THAN. Its commonly used in mathematics. I clearly stated that IMHO all the QB's I mentioned are GREATER THAN Beck. Pay attention to your 4th grade math studies when you go back to your GED classes on Tuesday.

And how do you figure Flacco looked scared out there? He looked pretty poised in the game I watched of him on the NFLN replay.

[SpaceMountain16]

Originally Posted by WVdolphan

WOW!

IMHO....Croyle > Beck, Huard > Beck
Flacco > Beck, Smith > Beck, Boller > Beck
O'sullivan > Beck, Smith > Beck, Hill(I think thats the 3rd stringer in SF's name) > Beck
Bulger(this has to be a HUGE joke, Bulger is one of the better QBs in this league) MUCH > Beck, Green > Beck
T.Jackson(he does completely blow) but still > Beck, Dont they have Gus as their backup??? Gus > Beck
Grossman and Orton both > Beck
Delhomme(this guy started in the bowl for christ sakes and was injured last year) MUCH > Beck, McCown > Beck, Matt Moore(injured) > Beck

Get real. Beck starting over Bulger or Delhomme is completely laughable. Seriously. The others at least arent good QBs, but still better than Beck.

It's posts like this that have pretty much made me stop taking anything you post seriously

[dlockz]

Originally Posted by TGJ19

Beck cant play second string? shoot, he can be a starter in this league. I bet he would start in KC, Baltimore, Sanfran, St louis, Minny, Chicago and Carolina.

You would bet wrong. If any of these GMs thought that Beck was better than thier starter they would jump in a second.

KC- I doubt it. Dont forget KC let trent Green depart in trade because they wanted Croyle as thier starter. Doubtful that Beck would beat out Huard. Croyle has not been good but the team. Beck would struggle to make this team even with the poot Qb play. Prob be thier 3rd stringer

Baltimore- Balt invested a top pick in Flacco and still have Troy Smith from last year. Beck would not be a likely starter but would have a better chance to succeed here. Nothing to show he is any better than anything they already have.

SF- Not a chance at all. JT Sullivan has come out of nowwhere and cemented the top spot over a top draft pick and his supposed top rival Shaun Hill. Beck probably could not make this roster since they wont cut Smith due to money. Kyle Wright is a good young option anyway to develop.

St Louis- You have to be joking. Let me see last year's starter who started over Beck is a backup if he is lucky to Marc Bulger. Beck would never start over Bulger. Beck might have trouble making this roster also. They have Green plus Gradowski and Berlin. Berlin has actually played pretty solid this preseason.

Minny-This would be Beck's best chance. They showed alot of faith in Tavaris JAckson by skipping on some high profile qb draft picks. He is now banged up. Gus Frerotte would start over Beck. They drafted John David Booty and have Brooks Bollinger so conceivable that Beck would not make team but this would be his best chance.

Chicago-More fantasy. Kyle Orton has taken the job and may actually live up to the promise I feel he has. Grossman is the backup. Beck would be the third stringer over Hanie probably. This would be a solid place to land although Kyle Orton is younger than Beck by two years. I would take Orton any day over Beck as would Chicago obviously.

Carolina-Beck would start over Delhomme, damn u need a drug test. Beck would have a solid chance to be a backup if Moore was out long term. Moore seems to be highly thought of. Im sure Carolina preferred MCcown over Beck due to his experience.

Lets quit with the silly theories that Beck could start anywhere else at this point. Beck would not have the advantage of training camp with a team and he was out of the running for starter here almost immediately when pads came on and actual games were played. Beck will have to impress any team he goes to quickly because they will likely not have a big investment in him. I just dont see how people come up with this logic that he is good enough to start elsewhere at this point but we dont want to try to start him. If he could be a good starter at this point we would not have signed Pennington to be our starter. Believe me no Fo and coaching staff has seen as much of Beck as ours so why would anyone assume that they could be so wrong on this guy. Beck could develop in time but unless we have a plague of Qb injury he will likely never be the dolphin starter ever again. This is not Beck hating this is the reality of the NFL. Let me see the guys that run our team are geniuses except when it comes to Beck.

[WVdolphan]

Originally Posted by dlockz

You would bet wrong. If any of these GMs thought that Beck was better than thier starter they would jump in a second.

KC- I doubt it. Dont forget KC let trent Green depart in trade because they wanted Croyle as thier starter. Doubtful that Beck would beat out Huard. Croyle has not been good but the team. Beck would struggle to make this team even with the poot Qb play. Prob be thier 3rd stringer

Im glad you took the time to detail this response, I didnt feel up to it. First stop KC....completely agree.

Baltimore- Balt invested a top pick in Flacco and still have Troy Smith from last year. Beck would not be a likely starter but would have a better chance to succeed here. Nothing to show he is any better than anything they already have.

Might not even be able to make the roster here.

SF- Not a chance at all. JT Sullivan has come out of nowwhere and cemented the top spot over a top draft pick and his supposed top rival Shaun Hill. Beck probably could not make this roster since they wont cut Smith due to money. Kyle Wright is a good young option anyway to develop.

No room on the roster here either. Exactly what Ive been saying for weeks when for some reason people bring up SF for Beck saying he would be a good fit there. No way.

St Louis- You have to be joking. Let me see last year's starter who started over Beck is a backup if he is lucky to Marc Bulger. Beck would never start over Bulger. Beck might have trouble making this roster also. They have Green plus Gradowski and Berlin. Berlin has actually played pretty solid this preseason.

Start over Bulger........ Bulger is a damn good QB. I even forgot they got Gradkowski. Beck couldnt even make this team. He couldnt beat out Berlin either.

Minny-This would be Beck's best chance. They showed alot of faith in Tavaris JAckson by skipping on some high profile qb draft picks. He is now banged up. Gus Frerotte would start over Beck. They drafted John David Booty and have Brooks Bollinger so conceivable that Beck would not make team but this would be his best chance.

Yea, Jackson blows. I dont know why Minny is wasting their time. They should just start Gus so that the opposing D has to at least respect the QBs ability to beat them a lil. With that running attack I dont know why they insist on playing Jackson and letting teams play single safety coverage on them. But, as for Beck there isnt any room on their roster for him even if they dumped Jackson. The other 3 guys are all better.

Chicago-More fantasy. Kyle Orton has taken the job and may actually live up to the promise I feel he has. Grossman is the backup. Beck would be the third stringer over Hanie probably. This would be a solid place to land although Kyle Orton is younger than Beck by two years. I would take Orton any day over Beck as would Chicago obviously.

I know....right. Orton is the better prospect and while Grossman blows, he is still better than Beck.

Carolina-Beck would start over Delhomme, damn u need a drug test. Beck would have a solid chance to be a backup if Moore was out long term. Moore seems to be highly thought of. Im sure Carolina preferred MCcown over Beck due to his experience.

Matt Moore is their future QB IMHO. I think he is a great prospect and has looked good when given opportunities. I wanted to draft this guy myself and he fell to like the 6th round. I was always impressed with him when I watched late night Pac 10 games on FSN west.

[dlockz]

Originally Posted by WVdolphan

Im glad you took the time to detail this response, I didnt feel up to it. First stop KC....completely agree.




Might not even be able to make the roster here.



No room on the roster here either. Exactly what Ive been saying for weeks when for some reason people bring up SF for Beck saying he would be a good fit there. No way.



Start over Bulger........ Bulger is a damn good QB. I even forgot they got Gradkowski. Beck couldnt even make this team. He couldnt beat out Berlin either.



Yea, Jackson blows. I dont know why Minny is wasting their time. They should just start Gus so that the opposing D has to at least respect the QBs ability to beat them a lil. With that running attack I dont know why they insist on playing Jackson and letting teams play single safety coverage on them. But, as for Beck there isnt any room on their roster for him even if they dumped Jackson. The other 3 guys are all better.




I know....right. Orton is the better prospect and while Grossman blows, he is still better than Beck.



Matt Moore is their future QB IMHO. I think he is a great prospect and has looked good when given opportunities. I wanted to draft this guy myself and he fell to like the 6th round. I was always impressed with him when I watched late night Pac 10 games on FSN west.

I think that Moore is thier choice for that.

I just find it amazing that a guy who barely played for us in preseason, seems to be so highly regarded to start elsewhere at this point. Who knows down the line but he obviiously is not ready or he would be starting for us. Its not like Pennington is a hall of famer. Why spend money on him if Beck is ready to start? Because he is not.

[dlcmdrx]

Originally Posted by endorPHINS72

And another thing...this crap about "Beck isn't one of the regime's guys, so he never had a chance" is pure crap. Let's see...we have Ted Ginn starting and playing well, not to mention Ronnie Brown coming back and looking good after a terrible injury and other holdovers like Satele, Roth, Will Allen, Yeremiah Bell, Vonnie Holliday, Paul Soliai, Vernon Carey, Channing Crowder, Michael Lehan, Renaldo Hill, etc., etc. all playing well and seeing significant playing time. John Beck isn't starting or even 2nd string right now because he has squandered every opportunity to earn a spot wih the Dolphins. I think the best thing for him is to be out of Miami and try to resurrect his career with another team or maybe the Arena League. Nice young man, but just not an NFL quarterback.

Bull**** all the way.Specially the last part sending him to the Arena League

All those players you put as example are examples of guys that are unexpendable simply because we havent got anything else.

Next year once a better option is available at free agency or draft they will get their butt kicked.
Specially ronnie Brown, which after drafting two running backs and attending the workout of a washed cutted injury back ( Kevin jones ) he is simply playing because no one sane enough can rely entirely on ricky and parmelee and hillard havent steped up enough.

Beck was doubted by this regime because he had a horrible season last year in which no way was his fault, in training camp he hard a rough start ( which many pro bowl qbs have btw) and he was set to fail by this regime when they drafted henne.

And he wasnt given any opportunity at all mainly because BEFORE having his first real oportunnity (the miserable quarter against tampa bay ) Parcells already had signed Pennington.

How a player is gonna feel when they discard him even before seeing him in live action against another team and just guiding themselves from lame practices where coaches mess with the plays to force you??

Beck never had a fair opportunity.

In fact Testaverde wouldáve had a fairer opportunity than beck did

[Vaark]

I'm exhausted from all of this and the weekend's only just started!!

[Phantom]

Originally Posted by TGJ19

Beck cant play second string? shoot, he can be a starter in this league. I bet he would start in KC, Baltimore, Sanfran, St louis, Minny, Chicago and Carolina.

If any one of those teams thought Beck could start for them, they would have traded for him...

[Waldop]

This is not something I would be bragging about. The probability is that no other team wanted him. How is that a victory!!

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by WVdolphan