Cowboys released T Marten

lbmclean_sj · 09-06-2008, 03:06 PM

he has to be a better option than we have right now

LemonPepper · 09-06-2008, 03:12 PM

parcells favorite groceries.

Greyboy · 09-06-2008, 03:13 PM

http://sports.outsidethebeltway.com/...oston-college/

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal explosiveness and has some problems beating defenders to the point of attack. Doesn’t deliver a violent initial punch, doesn’t roll hips into blocks and isn’t going to knock many defenders back. While flashes good lower body strength doesn’t play with great leverage and isn’t a great drive-blocker at this point. Takes too long to get into pass set and is going to have problems preventing explosive edge rushers from turning the corner. Though flashes ability to anchor against bull rushers doesn’t get great knee bend in pass set and can get pushed back into the pocket

ticophin · 09-06-2008, 03:23 PM

Wow, with those weaknesses, is he even alive?

ckparrothead · 09-06-2008, 03:35 PM

With all due respect to Nate Garner, I believe that James Marten has to be considered more valuable...

Dolphins Own · 09-06-2008, 03:38 PM

Wasn't this posted a few hours ago?

Greyboy · 09-06-2008, 03:40 PM

I found a Dallas blog dated August 28th, and Marten looks to be doing so bad at tackle, that they moved him to guard-

http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/ar...and-steph.html

I don't know for a fact that James Marten will be cut, but the trade for OG Montrae Holland certainly isn't a good sign for last season's third-round pick.
Marten, drafted as a right tackle, was moved to guard this spring. All you need to know about his development is that when Kyle Kosier went down, Marten was not one of the three backups the coaches considered as replacements.

The 6-7, 315-pound Marten is consistently overpowered at the point of attack. When the Hard Knocks cameras showed OL coach Hudson Houck saying a lineman was "a little light in the [rear]," I assumed he was referring to Marten.
The Cowboys didn't hesitate to cut ties with second-rounder Jacob Rogers or third-rounder Stephen Peterman when it was clear those O-linemen were bad picks. Odds are the same thing is about to happen to Marten.

On a related note, the trade for Holland isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for the rest of the backup OL

PhinsTD · 09-06-2008, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ckparrothead

With all due respect to Nate Garner, I believe that James Marten has to be considered more valuable...

What about Ndukwe? I haven't been impressed with him at all this preseason...really, we all just need to pray for no injuries.

wyo · 09-12-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dolphins Own

Wasn't this posted a few hours ago?

Ya old news

DefensiveEnd76 · 09-12-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyboy

http://sports.outsidethebeltway.com/...oston-college/

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal explosiveness and has some problems beating defenders to the point of attack. Doesn’t deliver a violent initial punch, doesn’t roll hips into blocks and isn’t going to knock many defenders back. While flashes good lower body strength doesn’t play with great leverage and isn’t a great drive-blocker at this point. Takes too long to get into pass set and is going to have problems preventing explosive edge rushers from turning the corner. Though flashes ability to anchor against bull rushers doesn’t get great knee bend in pass set and can get pushed back into the pocket

I think we could find a corpse that could play better then that

fishypete · 09-12-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DefensiveEnd76

I think we could find a corpse that could play better then that

Seems to me we have had a few players who played like Corpse's...already on the Dolphins.

DefensiveEnd76 · 09-12-2008, 02:14 PM

Well when a rookie 6th round draft pick (Donald Thomas) was the best o-lineman against the Jets, it shows our o-line is bad

dwhorton · 09-12-2008, 07:47 PM

well sparano would know the guy and he must not like him.

CalFishman · 09-13-2008, 12:26 PM

Sparano/ Ireland worked with him all last year. The front office lack of action is a pretty damming assessment. Even more damning when you realize the team claimed the 6th to last pick in the draft and not Marten. Hell, they picked up 2 7th round OT waivers from teams who finished in the bottom half of the league over Marten.

pmdiaz23 · 09-15-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ticophin

Wow, with those weaknesses, is he even alive?

THis was funny

09-06-2008, 03:13 PM	#3
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ckparrothead Premium Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 32,876 Thanks: 16 Thanked 2,059 Times in 670 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 1	With all due respect to Nate Garner, I believe that James Marten has to be considered more valuable... __________________ Good luck with the Skins, JT. You'll always be "Ozone" to me...

09-06-2008, 03:40 PM	#7
Greyboy Seasoned Veteran Join Date: May 2007 Location: LearnGuitar.com Posts: 1,735 Thanks: 23 Thanked 709 Times in 365 Posts	I found a Dallas blog dated August 28th, and Marten looks to be doing so bad at tackle, that they moved him to guard- http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/ar...and-steph.html I don't know for a fact that James Marten will be cut, but the trade for OG Montrae Holland certainly isn't a good sign for last season's third-round pick. Marten, drafted as a right tackle, was moved to guard this spring. All you need to know about his development is that when Kyle Kosier went down, Marten was not one of the three backups the coaches considered as replacements. The 6-7, 315-pound Marten is consistently overpowered at the point of attack. When the Hard Knocks cameras showed OL coach Hudson Houck saying a lineman was "a little light in the [rear]," I assumed he was referring to Marten. The Cowboys didn't hesitate to cut ties with second-rounder Jacob Rogers or third-rounder Stephen Peterman when it was clear those O-linemen were bad picks. Odds are the same thing is about to happen to Marten. On a related note, the trade for Holland isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for the rest of the backup OL __________________ 1982 "Mud Bowl" AFC Championship game of the Dolphins shutting out the Jets LOL !

09-12-2008, 02:14 PM	#12
DefensiveEnd76 Football Guru Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 1,944 Thanks: 195 Thanked 263 Times in 182 Posts	Well when a rookie 6th round draft pick (Donald Thomas) was the best o-lineman against the Jets, it shows our o-line is bad __________________ God is a Dolphin Fan!

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LemonPepper Starter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 605 Thanks: 1 Thanked 31 Times in 24 Posts	parcells favorite groceries.

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Dolphins Own Dolphins fan since 2002 Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 299 Thanks: 1 Thanked 33 Times in 17 Posts	Wasn't this posted a few hours ago?

09-12-2008, 07:47 PM	#13
dwhorton Scout Team Join Date: Aug 2006 Age: 40 Posts: 130 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 8 Posts	well sparano would know the guy and he must not like him.

09-13-2008, 12:26 PM	#14
CalFishman Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 41 Posts: 207 Thanks: 7 Thanked 16 Times in 7 Posts	Sparano/ Ireland worked with him all last year. The front office lack of action is a pretty damming assessment. Even more damning when you realize the team claimed the 6th to last pick in the draft and not Marten. Hell, they picked up 2 7th round OT waivers from teams who finished in the bottom half of the league over Marten.

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