Matt Ryan Signs 6 year $72m Deal. $34.75m Guaranteed.

[ckparrothead]

Originally Posted by dolpns13

hed be on death row, where he should be now

He should be on death row for dog fighting? I think that's a bit ridiculous.

[BobDole]

Originally Posted by dolpns13

well, if he were found guilty... I hope

me too. gotta love the law.

death row might be a little intense for dog fighting.

[Vaark]

If we had actually been foolish enough to buy into Ryan's "Fool Gold" just imagine for how Condon would have tried to hose us. It wouldn't have been pretty.

[BillsFanInPeace]

Ryan IMO is reaping the Benifit of ATL (mainly Blank) wanting to put Vick behind the organization.

IMO their pick should have been Dorsey

[BobDole]

Originally Posted by BillsFanInPeace

Ryan IMO is reaping the Benifit of ATL (mainly Blank) wanting to put Vick behind the organization.

IMO their pick should have been Dorsey

check and check.

[dolpns13]

Originally Posted by ckparrothead

He should be on death row for dog fighting? I think that's a bit ridiculous.

I dont-not for what he did, each unto their own though... Killing a dog shows more cowardess than killing a human. I think its a bit riduculous you thing dog fighting was the ONLY thing he did

[ckparrothead]

Originally Posted by BillsFanInPeace

Ryan IMO is reaping the Benifit of ATL (mainly Blank) wanting to put Vick behind the organization.

IMO their pick should have been Dorsey

Funny enough, the people in Atlanta also wanted Dorsey. Arthur Blank underestimated them. He was so convinced they needed Matt Ryan to put Mike Vick behind them. The people were either already over Mike Vick, and just wanted the best option to make the team better, or they were just not ready to move on from Vick yet to some completely opposite goofy looking white boy. Either way, Blank should have just let his football people tell him who the best player was, and take him.

[Vaark]

Originally Posted by dolpns13

I dont-not for what he did, each unto their own though... Killing a dog shows more cowardess than killing a human. I think its a bit riduculous you thing dog fighting was the ONLY thing he did

Amen! It's been (and continues to be) my hope that during incarceration, he runs into an animal-loving Lifer with nothing to lose.

[ckparrothead]

Originally Posted by dolpns13

I dont-not for what he did, each unto their own though... Killing a dog shows more cowardess than killing a human. I think its a bit riduculous you thing dog fighting was the ONLY thing he did

I think it's a bit ridiculous to assume a dog fighter must have done something else worthy of execution.

The punishment doesn't fit the crime. Dogs are killed every single day. Thousands a day. Euthanized. And why? Because of an easily curable eye infection, or because of an allergy to demodex mites (the kind that are present on everyone, humans and dogs) has caused a small bald patch on their head.

Is what he did cruel? Of course. But it is absolutely absurd to say a guy should be executed for killing dogs when thousands of dogs are killed legally every single day for no greater reason than apathy and aesthetics.

[dlockz]

Originally Posted by ckparrothead

Funny enough, the people in Atlanta also wanted Dorsey. Arthur Blank underestimated them. He was so convinced they needed Matt Ryan to put Mike Vick behind them. The people were either already over Mike Vick, and just wanted the best option to make the team better, or they were just not ready to move on from Vick yet to some completely opposite goofy looking white boy. Either way, Blank should have just let his football people tell him who the best player was, and take him.

Either way they were gonna pay and its not like Ryan was not a highly rated player. They needed a QB and got by far the highest rated one.
Its not like reached on a guy that had no business being drafted that high.

[ckparrothead]

Originally Posted by dlockz

Either way they were gonna pay and its not like Ryan was not a highly rated player. They needed a QB and got by far the highest rated one.
Its not like reached on a guy that had no business being drafted that high.

I wouldn't call it "by far" when multiple people, including Bill Polian and now Urban Meyer, have expressed that they felt Chad Henne was the best QB in the draft, when healthy.

The "consensus" on Matt Ryan's draft standing may have been as flawed as the "consensus" on Joey Harrington's draft standing. Several people have come out of the woodwork saying they actually didn't even have Harrington rated a first rounder, and that one of the reasons he was drafted so high by Millen was because Millen, fresh into a job he was inexperienced at, made the mistake of calling other GMs to gauge their opinion of Joey...and they took the opportunity to talk him up so that a guy they actually liked would have a better chance of falling.

Did I have Matt Ryan as the best? Absolutely. But, that doesn't mean Atlanta got a good deal by taking Ryan at #3. Personally, I think taking Matt Ryan over Glenn Dorsey is absolutely nothing short of absurdly stupid.

[dlockz]

Originally Posted by ckparrothead

I wouldn't call it "by far" when multiple people, including Bill Polian and now Urban Meyer, have expressed that they felt Chad Henne was the best QB in the draft, when healthy.

The "consensus" on Matt Ryan's draft standing may have been as flawed as the "consensus" on Joey Harrington's draft standing. Several people have come out of the woodwork saying they actually didn't even have Harrington rated a first rounder, and that one of the reasons he was drafted so high by Millen was because Millen, fresh into a job he was inexperienced at, made the mistake of calling other GMs to gauge their opinion of Joey...and they took the opportunity to talk him up so that a guy they actually liked would have a better chance of falling.

Did I have Matt Ryan as the best? Absolutely. But, that doesn't mean Atlanta got a good deal by taking Ryan at #3. Personally, I think taking Matt Ryan over Glenn Dorsey is absolutely nothing short of absurdly stupid.

And some people thought Ryan Leaf was a better prospect than Peyton Manning. The majority by far thought that Ryan was the best prospect by far.Im sure in any draft you might find a few people that think such and such is best but even two respected guys is still quite a minority. There were actually a few people that thought that McFadden was not the best runningback in the draft but that still does not make him the consensus top prospect. To say that Matt Ryan's draft status may have been as flawed as Joey harrington is quite a stretch and we both know that there were quite a few teams that would have taken him if Atlanta had passed and it would have still been in the first 10 picks. Just because you think that taking Ryan over Dorsey is insanely stupid does not make it stupid just your own opinion.

[dolpns13]

Originally Posted by ckparrothead

I think it's a bit ridiculous to assume a dog fighter must have done something else worthy of execution.

The punishment doesn't fit the crime. Dogs are killed every single day. Thousands a day. Euthanized. And why? Because of an easily curable eye infection, or because of an allergy to demodex mites (the kind that are present on everyone, humans and dogs) has caused a small bald patch on their head.

Is what he did cruel? Of course. But it is absolutely absurd to say a guy should be executed for killing dogs when thousands of dogs are killed legally every single day for no greater reason than apathy and aesthetics.

Gimme a break dude... Dont try to sugar coat what he did. It wasnt the dog fighting that was half as bad as beating dogs to death, drowning, electocuting, slamming them to the ground. What he did was nowhere along any lines of euthanization. When dogs are euthenized, they are simply put to sleep, with no pain whasoever, not beaten to death.

[FinLaden]

Jake Long's deal is actually 6 years in length. Jake *CAN* void the final year of his contract so long as two conditions are met. One is that he must be on the roster 5 days after the team is done playing the 2012 season (which would be his 5th year). The other is that he must play at least 35 percent of offensive snaps in 2008, and at least 45% of the snaps in 2009, 2010, 2011 or 2012.
Is the 6th year relatively easy to void? Absolutely. However, that's not the point.
The point is the total contract figures MOST LIKELY include that 6th year's salary. Why? Because it is voidable at Long's discretion. It isn't the same as an option year, which must be exercised by the player before it can be considered part of the original contract. So this $57.75 million figure we have from the press probably includes a 6th year salary that will never be paid. And, if the salaries escalate at a common pace, that salary is probably about $6 million.
When you look at it that way, Miami is probably paying Jake Long around $10.4 million per year for 5 years.
Matt Ryan is being paid $12.0 million per year for 6 years.
Is Jake Long's guaranteed money per year (assuming he voids the final year) higher than Ryan's? Yes. By about 3.3 percent. But, that disparity is very LOW for the difference between the #1 overall pick and the #3 overall pick. Not to mention, it is entirely likely that Miami beefed up the guaranteed portion of the contract in order to entice Long into signing the deal in the first place.
Why do I say that? Because if my assumptions are correct about the 6th year's salary probably being worth about $6 million, then Jake Long is actually getting paid about 3 percent LESS per year than Jamarcus Russell got one year ago. That's pretty incredible, since those numbers are generally supposed to rise 5 to 10 percent every year.

[FinLaden]