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Old 05-21-2007, 10:15 PM   #16
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yeah i see where you're coming from. Clinton is a good guy too, flamboyant, but he's good, I don't think he meant to offend too many people.
I don't see where he's coming from at all.

Portis is a knucklehead for sticking his mouth into this bottom line.
it's an illegal activity and a Federal offense to boot if I'm not mistaken.

Someone can "see things differently" all they want but it dosen't change that it's illegal and wrong.

I mean child molesters don't think there should be classifications such as "minors". Cut them some slack right because they just "see things differently".
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Old 05-21-2007, 10:35 PM   #17
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Last month's discovery of dog-fighting evidence on Michael Vick's property in Virginia was triggered by a search for drugs in the possible possession of Vick's cousin. But the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that a warrant was thereafter obtained to search the property for evidence of dog fighting.
The warrant authorized a search for evidence "showing ownership of pitbull [sic] terrier dogs or other fighting dogs including bills of sale, pedigrees, breeding records and veterinary records; any dog fighting records including name and telephone numbers lists of person suspected of being dog fighters."
The AJC obtained the warrant and an inventory of the items seized through a request under the Freedom of Information Act. And the AJC reports that included among the evidence were three envelopes addressed to "M. Vick."
The contents of the envelopes have not been disclosed. But it is the first proof of a concrete link between Vick and the dogs and other items taken from the property that he owns but claims he never visits.



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Patrick Terpstra of WVEC-TV reports that federal authorities are now involved in the ongoing investigation regarding evidence of dog-fighting found last month on the property of Michael Vick in Virginia.
Surry County Sheriff Harold Brown told WVEC that an investigator from the U.S. Department of Agriculture was present for Monday's two-hour meeting between local law enforcement officials and Surry County prosecutor Gerald Poindexter.



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Two things I know are now official:

1) Clinton Portis IS an idiot.

2) You can got to college for four years and still be a stupid ***.

Anyone who hurts animals (or causes them to hurt each other) is a pure waste of good oxygen. This whole thing flat out pisses me off. I just need to stop my post right here, before I say what I feel should be done to anyone who even begins to condone dog fights.
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Old 05-21-2007, 11:13 PM   #19
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im not lieing wen i say clinton portis is dumber than my puppy
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Old 05-21-2007, 11:20 PM   #20
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I don't see where he's coming from at all.

Portis is a knucklehead for sticking his mouth into this bottom line.
it's an illegal activity and a Federal offense to boot if I'm not mistaken.

Someone can "see things differently" all they want but it dosen't change that it's illegal and wrong.

I mean child molesters don't think there should be classifications such as "minors". Cut them some slack right because they just "see things differently".
I know it's illegal, and a federal offense. I never said it was right, I think it's disgusting. As an owner of two dogs whom I love, I would never advocate anything like this. All I was saying was that I understood what Nappy said in that Clinton may have a different view on it because of how he grew up and it was around him as a youth so he didn't react like we all would. I don't see how that turns in to me thinking child molesters deserve ribbons and cake.
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Old 05-21-2007, 11:25 PM   #21
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How you were raised, or your atmosphere as a youth, is no "free pass" to do or say stupid things. If that were the case, we'd all have an excuse.
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How you were raised, or your atmosphere as a youth, is no "free pass" to do or say stupid things. If that were the case, we'd all have an excuse.
LOL, ain't that the truth.
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I know it's illegal, and a federal offense. I never said it was right, I think it's disgusting. As an owner of two dogs whom I love, I would never advocate anything like this. All I was saying was that I understood what Nappy said in that Clinton may have a different view on it because of how he grew up and it was around him as a youth so he didn't react like we all would. I don't see how that turns in to me thinking child molesters deserve ribbons and cake.


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How you were raised, or your atmosphere as a youth, is no "free pass" to do or say stupid things. If that were the case, we'd all have an excuse.
Wasn't trying to imply anything about your feelings on child molestors.
Just giving another example of an act that is clearly wrong and inexcusable regardless of whether the perpetrator thinks it's alright or not.

The comments of Scrap above is the point I was getting at.
Besides, you weren't the one making the excuses for Portis and Vick's idiocy.
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...But I'm not such a nice guy about it. I do hope karma gets him.
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I hope nobody forgives this idiot. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2878099

Look at the bottom. He's now saying he doesn't condone dog fighting. What do I hate even more than a guy who condones dogs fighting ? A guy who backs down from what he believes in because of how others feel about what he said.

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we should put these guys in cages and have them fight eachother. would rid the world of ignorant pieces of ****
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I think anyone involved in dog fighting should spend a long time in jail. To say it is "nobody's business," or to condone what Vick does because he owns the property or the dogs involved is just wrong. Alot of serial killers also seem to have similar beliefs and views that dog fighting and cruelty to animals is ok. I hope the NFL Commissioner comes down hard on Vick and hits him with a nice long suspension. Maybe some of these clowns will start getting the message when they lose paychecks or are kicked out of the NFL.

Roman529 is absolutely right, and his response is the best anyone has posted in this thread. Roman529 I agree with you 100%; I'm glad somebody else sees it this way as well.
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Old 05-22-2007, 09:47 PM   #28
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Washington Redskins running back Clinton Portis is behind Michael Vick 100%. He thinks this whole dog fighting thing has gotten entirely too much attention and that we all (fans and media alike) should mind our own business.
"I don't know if he was fighting dogs or not, but it's his property, it's his dog," Portis told WAVY-TV. "If that's what he wants to do, do it. I think people should mind their business."
Portis later added that he knows "a lot of back roads that got the dog fight if you want to go see it" and that "if it's behind closed doors, it's okay."
so the fans and the media aren't supposed to have or voice an opinion and should mind their own business, but he is allowed to voice his on the topic, and the fans and the media are supposed to care because????

do they offer courses in logical thinking at "the U?"
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if there is any legit evidence that he knew what was going on, or sanctioned this in any way, Vick's career will come to an end over this, mark my words. and it should.
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yeah i see where you're coming from. Clinton is a good guy too, flamboyant, but he's good, I don't think he meant to offend too many people.
He is a stupid poor excuse for a human being.
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