Merged: DeAngelo Hall NOT traded to the Raiders

[Dfan06]

some of you guys have problems in acquiring talent. I blame Speildman for that. D-angelo Hall is a sure thing. # 32 isn't. I would gladly give that pick to them or San Diego's.

[WVdolphan]

Originally Posted by Elliott 1

Could we have a little realism please?

Thats what I think to myself everytime I see someone mention us trading for this guy.

If Hall were a restricted free agent he would be tendered with the highest tender.

Really? I dont think the falcons are truly interested in his services. Doubt they would restrict him if he were a FA. That would mean there would be a chance they would be paying him big dollars if no one wanted to give up the picks for him. Dosent look like anyone wants to give a 1st for him, much less a 1st and a 3rd. If he were a FA, Atlanta would let him walk.

He is one of the best players in the NFL and he plays at a position that many teams have great need at.

I might agree with you on this point.

He is a proven pro-bowl player.

True.

Nobody is getting him for 2nd round pick. He will command multiple picks or players and picks.

Really? Then why is no one willing to come off a first for him? He will get traded for a 2nd round pick as soon as Oakland or someone else decides to give him the ridiculous salary he wants. Either that or he realizes he should take the money they offer him or he will wind up stuck in Atlanta where he dosent want to be.

One day clowns like this might realize their behavior and attitude does nothing but, drive down their market value and thus cost them money in contracts.

People dont want to make large financial commitments to guys who have questionable character. Especially after the Mike Vick fiasco. You would think he would learn from that first hand. Instead he publicly backs Vick with tshirts at games and stuff. Moron.

Do you realize how much money Randy Moss cost himself with his past transgresions? He is still paying for stuff he did in Minnesota and Oakland despite hauling in 23 TDs last year. Ridiculous. The guy got traded for a 4th round pick. A guy with that talent and good character would command much more money and wouldnt be traded for even a first round pick. Morons.

[RoninFin4]

The only way I make a move for DeAngelo Hall is if it comes in swapping picks with Atlanta in the first round and an additional 3rd is thrown in for us; or we use a pick acquired via a trade involving Jason Taylor to get him, thus negating losing any of our already acquired picks. If the JT deal does get done, hopefully for a 2nd and 3rd as the rumored offer is right now, give up the 2nd rounder and we still have 5 picks in the first 3 rounds. That said, I don't think either of these options are realistic possibilities.

[elandre]

Everyone sayin hall is over rated! Give me a break !
We havnt had a CB of his talent since Surtain back in 02-03

[cowboy82nd]

Originally Posted by elandre

Everyone sayin hall is over rated! Give me a break !
We havnt had a CB of his talent since Surtain back in 02-03

Just because we haven't had a player of his talent since Surtain, does not mean he isn't overrated.

[elandre]

Id still take him although Ocho Cinco did whoop him.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=VN5cyfI4A3c

[funkDat]

Originally Posted by elandre

Everyone sayin hall is over rated! Give me a break !
We havnt had a CB of his talent since Surtain back in 02-03

lol, are you joking.Did you see what C.J. did to Hall last year.C.J. would never have done that to Sam/Surtain , not in 02-03 or even 07.Just because a guy runs like the wind doesn't make him a great cb.

Hall has a 'lot more speed then talent.................just ask C.J.

[elandre]

Ohh i know speed doesn't make u a great CB! Look at Will Allen the guy ran a 4.29 40!~

[alen1]

Originally Posted by Dfan06

some of you guys have problems in acquiring talent. I blame Speildman for that. D-angelo Hall is a sure thing. # 32 isn't. I would gladly give that pick to them or San Diego's.

So was Ryan Leaf when Chargers selected him.

He is not a sure thing, he could end up being a cancer in the locker room after he receives his payday. He is overrated and is maybe at best a top ten player at his position. He relies on his speed to make plays. As others mentioned, a very good receiver like Chad Johnson exploited DHall. I wouldn't trade a draft pick for Hall and I wouldn't give him the money he is asking for because he is not worth it.

[dolpns13]

sounds like the raiders are going to be in salary cap hell in about 3 years with all the HUGE money they gave EVERYONE they signed... Good for them

[funkDat]

Originally Posted by elandre

Ohh i know speed doesn't make u a great CB! Look at Will Allen the guy ran a 4.29 40!~

LoL but for my money Allen's better then Hall.

[SwimminInIndy]

He fits right in with the Raiders though...

[MARINO1384]

Originally Posted by Gardenhead

D'Angelo Hall is not one of the best players in the NFL. He's not even one of the 10-best players at his position! He's pretty darn good, but he is not an elite shutdown corner, let alone one of the best players in the NFL!

ok then name 10 other corners that are better, D-hall is deff without a doubt a top ten corner....

1. Bailey
2. Sameul
3. Woodsen
4. Cromartie
5. Clemente

After that it's all in the air and D-Hall is deff one of the five.

[Straztheman]

Originally Posted by WVdolphan

I wouldnt give an old sock for him.

I'd give a brand new whole pack of socks for him.

[alen1]

Originally Posted by MARINO1384

ok then name 10 other corners that are better, D-hall is deff without a doubt a top ten corner....

1. Bailey
2. Sameul
3. Woodsen
4. Cromartie
5. Clemente
After that it's all in the air and D-Hall is deff one of the five.

( No specific order)
6. Harris
7.Trufant
8.barber
9.McAllister
10.Mathis
11.Asoughma
12.Newman
13. Winfield, I would take him over Hall

Its not ten but it is eight.

I also dont think that he is not a shut down corner but he is good.