Raiders Offer Moss, Porter and Draft Upgrade for Vick

KingCrowder · 01-24-2007, 06:10 AM

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...wire&type=lgns

What has happened to the Raider Nation?

Philter25 · 01-24-2007, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KingCrowder

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu...wire&type=lgns

What has happened to the Raider Nation?

If Im Atlanta, I would pull this. Time to realize that Vick is not going to be a passing NFL QB. Suck up the cap hit the first year with a new coach, take Russell in the draft, and attempt to trade Randy Moss back to someone and stockpile picks this year.

Motion · 01-24-2007, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Philter25

If Im Atlanta, I would pull this. Time to realize that Vick is not going to be a passing NFL QB. Suck up the cap hit the first year with a new coach, take Russell in the draft, and attempt to trade Randy Moss back to someone and stockpile picks this year.

Absolutely, this is a no brainer for Atlanta. Petrino runs a pass heavy offense anyway, Vick does not fit. Make the trade then trade whatever WR Minnesota wants for another pick and your still stacked at WR, have a more than capable QB in Schuab, an extra pick, and the #1 overall pick to boot!

SpurzN703 · 01-24-2007, 10:10 AM

I'd make the deal. Draft a franchise QB and have Schaub be your guy for a year or two

byroan · 01-24-2007, 10:10 AM

I'd jump all over that if I'm Atlanta.

In_Flames · 01-24-2007, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SpurzN703

I'd make the deal. Draft a franchise QB and have Schaub be your guy for a year or two

Schaub could very well already be thier franchise QB, which means they could then shop around that #1 overall pick and see what opportunities arise elsewhere...either way it's a win win situation for Atlanta if in fact that trade took place

Vertical Limit · 01-24-2007, 10:18 AM

I swear, the Raiders are the dumbest team in the NFL. They are willing to make this trade to get a guy who was almost behind bars for marijuana?

That's trading TWO head cases for ONE head case.

IMO, I would try to ask the Raiders for Michael Huff plus the draft upgrade for Michael Vick. Their defense and secondary was great enough without him [they actually have a [playoff caliber defense], and the Falcons need help on their secondary. If they want to send Jerry Porter, then that would be great too, but I much rather have the BPA in the draft with the 1st pick overall, Calvin Johnson. Besides, why would the Falcons draft a quarterback when they're high on Matt Schaub?

UCFinfan86 · 01-24-2007, 10:32 AM

Let's see the problem with vick has always been that he has no WR's to throw to(legit reason or not). So you trade your #1 and #2 WR and the chance to draft Calvin Johnson for Vick who then will throw to Ronald Curry??

Sounds like a great Idea AL!!

Motion · 01-24-2007, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by UCFinfan86

Let's see the problem with vick has always been that he has no WR's to throw to(legit reason or not). So you trade your #1 and #2 WR and the chance to draft Calvin Johnson for Vick who then will throw to Ronald Curry??

Sounds like a great Idea AL!!

They would probably take the howetown guy Jarrett at #10.

Motion · 01-24-2007, 11:18 AM

The Falcons insist they have no plans to trade or release Michael Vick before the 2007 season, according to a spokeswoman for team owner Arthur Blank. In fact, Vick will be back as the team's starter, thwarting speculation about his status or stature with the franchise. In addition to the desire to keep Vick, the salary-cap ramifications of trading or cutting him would make a move prohibitive. "There are no plans to trade him or cut him," Kim Shreckengost, executive vice president of operations for Arthur M. Blank Group, said. "Michael is our quarterback and the leader of our team. We have a new head coach [Bobby Petrino] who is anxious to start working with him. Everyone has high expectations of him going into next season.

Motion · 01-24-2007, 11:21 AM

Looks like the Falcons still may lose a QB though.......

There is no guarantee Matt Schaub will be with the team next season. He is a restricted free agent. If another team is willing to offer Schaub a contract the Falcons won't match, he can leave in exchange for preset compensation, which most likely would be at least a first-round pick. If Schaub does return, he would be an unrestricted free agent after the 2007 and could leave without the Falcons receiving anything in return.

FINdestructible · 01-24-2007, 11:56 AM

If the Falcons can keep Schaub, it would be great deal for them, but as always, a stupid move by the Raiders & Al Davis.

Crunkcore · 01-24-2007, 12:47 PM

The falcons should make that deal in a second.
I think they'd be better off in the long run if they did IMO.

Majpain · 01-24-2007, 12:48 PM

Is Oakland the new Minnesota?

HysterikiLL · 01-24-2007, 03:20 PM

Atlanta should've done this. They are already stacked financially at WR with a few former first round picks on their first contract. They probably don't need both Moss AND Porter.

But how can Moss and Porter, who already aren't happy with Oakland, now just sit back and know that the team actually TRIED to trade them? I don't see them coming back next year.

01-24-2007, 10:10 AM	#4
SpurzN703 Spurs fan for LIFE Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Age: 27 Posts: 9,779 Thanks: 319 Thanked 418 Times in 313 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 1	I'd make the deal. Draft a franchise QB and have Schaub be your guy for a year or two __________________

01-24-2007, 10:18 AM	#7
Vertical Limit Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Miami, FL Age: 21 Posts: 5,729 Thanks: 156 Thanked 155 Times in 106 Posts	I swear, the Raiders are the dumbest team in the NFL. They are willing to make this trade to get a guy who was almost behind bars for marijuana? That's trading TWO head cases for ONE head case. IMO, I would try to ask the Raiders for Michael Huff plus the draft upgrade for Michael Vick. Their defense and secondary was great enough without him [they actually have a [playoff caliber defense], and the Falcons need help on their secondary. If they want to send Jerry Porter, then that would be great too, but I much rather have the BPA in the draft with the 1st pick overall, Calvin Johnson. Besides, why would the Falcons draft a quarterback when they're high on Matt Schaub? __________________ * Ronnie Brown's lack of production NOT HIS FAULT.

01-24-2007, 10:32 AM	#8
UCFinfan86 Oronde Gadsden's Official #1 Fan Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Orlando Age: 20 Posts: 3,198 Thanks: 3 Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Let's see the problem with vick has always been that he has no WR's to throw to(legit reason or not). So you trade your #1 and #2 WR and the chance to draft Calvin Johnson for Vick who then will throw to Ronald Curry?? Sounds like a great Idea AL!! __________________ 2008 Washington Redskins GM League Owner

01-24-2007, 11:56 AM	#12
FINdestructible Section 211 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Coral Gables, FL Age: 35 Posts: 1,625 Thanks: 187 Thanked 98 Times in 68 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 2	If the Falcons can keep Schaub, it would be great deal for them, but as always, a stupid move by the Raiders & Al Davis. __________________

01-24-2007, 12:48 PM	#14
Majpain Giants GM Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Alabama Age: 19 Posts: 12,916 Thanks: 171 Thanked 126 Times in 94 Posts	Is Oakland the new Minnesota? __________________ Made by YM305

01-24-2007, 10:10 AM	#5
byroan Dead Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 18,124 Thanks: 24 Thanked 33 Times in 22 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 2	I'd jump all over that if I'm Atlanta.

01-24-2007, 11:18 AM	#10
Motion FinHeaven Elite Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 22,359 Thanks: 369 Thanked 267 Times in 184 Posts	The Falcons insist they have no plans to trade or release Michael Vick before the 2007 season, according to a spokeswoman for team owner Arthur Blank. In fact, Vick will be back as the team's starter, thwarting speculation about his status or stature with the franchise. In addition to the desire to keep Vick, the salary-cap ramifications of trading or cutting him would make a move prohibitive. "There are no plans to trade him or cut him," Kim Shreckengost, executive vice president of operations for Arthur M. Blank Group, said. "Michael is our quarterback and the leader of our team. We have a new head coach [Bobby Petrino] who is anxious to start working with him. Everyone has high expectations of him going into next season.

01-24-2007, 11:21 AM	#11
Motion FinHeaven Elite Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 22,359 Thanks: 369 Thanked 267 Times in 184 Posts	Looks like the Falcons still may lose a QB though....... There is no guarantee Matt Schaub will be with the team next season. He is a restricted free agent. If another team is willing to offer Schaub a contract the Falcons won't match, he can leave in exchange for preset compensation, which most likely would be at least a first-round pick. If Schaub does return, he would be an unrestricted free agent after the 2007 and could leave without the Falcons receiving anything in return.

01-24-2007, 12:47 PM	#13
Crunkcore The Crunk One Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 782 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The falcons should make that deal in a second. I think they'd be better off in the long run if they did IMO.

01-24-2007, 03:20 PM	#15
HysterikiLL misogynistic one-liner or BUST Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 20 Posts: 12,575 Thanks: 49 Thanked 28 Times in 22 Posts	Atlanta should've done this. They are already stacked financially at WR with a few former first round picks on their first contract. They probably don't need both Moss AND Porter. But how can Moss and Porter, who already aren't happy with Oakland, now just sit back and know that the team actually TRIED to trade them? I don't see them coming back next year. __________________ March Madness has begun...

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