Rivers is Better Than Manning!!! By Far!!

dominizzo · 11-13-2006, 12:54 AM

Eli that is!!

Eli IMO is just an average QB!!

I really think philip is the better QB!!

Anyone agree?

Martel · 11-13-2006, 01:01 AM

I agree

DonShula84 · 11-13-2006, 01:45 AM

lol I was getting ready to come in here and slam this thread. I was ready to put up the 1 star lol. I agree though, Rivers looks better than Manning so far. I think Manning will be a good player though.

cltchperf · 11-13-2006, 05:03 AM

Who knows in the long run, but Manning has just as much offensive talent around him and he is not playing nearly as good as Rivers. Even though Manning does not have the best rb in the league in LT, he does have what I would say is the 2nd best back in the league and best NFC rb with Tiki Barber, plus a good rb with Brandon Jacobs, Plaxico Burress and Jeremy Shockey. But Eli still struggles, and after watching the game against the Bears it seems that he still hasn't taken his performance to the next level. Eli Manning is so streaky and inaccurate, wheras, as Rives is accurate or much more accurate than Eil Manning and seems much less streaky so far. Eli Manning has to throw much better. He has missed numerous WRs, in the game that were wide open and they were just ten yard passes, and he also had two awful passes that were way overthrown to wide open wrs that resulted in interceptions.

NYinBostonFin · 11-13-2006, 08:35 AM

Take LT off the chargers and put him on the giants...then tell me.

Nothing against Tiki, but LT takes a lot of heat off the QB. Gates is a much better TE than shockey too.

Right now, nobody could really say. But Rivers has a much better supporting cast right now.

Pennington's Rocket Arm · 11-13-2006, 08:39 AM

i agree that rivers will probably be better than manning, but both have shown signs of greatness.

Vertical Limit · 11-13-2006, 08:50 AM

It is definitely starting to look that way, as if the Giants made the wrong choice in that draft. But I have a feeling that we haven't seen the best of Eli Manning yet. Each time he has the ball on his hands, and he is standing on that pocket, I always feel as if he's going to do something great.

Problem Eli has to face that Philip Rivers does not is that he is surrounded by great talents on offense, but around 3 of them are selfish, loudmouth *******. Having Jeremy Shockey and Plaxico Burress on the same offense is like having TWO "San Francisco 49ers version of Terrell Owens" in your offense (I mention that version, because I really think that Terrell Owens has definitely matured now).

You just can't control those two, and if you get on their face, they will back down on your team and sit on the sidelines for the rest of the game to watch you suffer [ie: Seattle vs New York game; Plaxico didn't play the entire second half..].

nyjunc · 11-13-2006, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dominizzo

Eli that is!!

Eli IMO is just an average QB!!

I really think philip is the better QB!!

Anyone agree?

We agree on something! Eli is vastly overarted, every time he has a decent game they hype him up like he's Montana but they ignore his crappy games whichb there are more of than good games. I have been saying he's an average QB but even an average QB w/ that talent would be doing very well and Eli is not.

nyjunc · 11-13-2006, 09:01 AM

The Giants got fleeced in that draftday trade, they could have had Ben or Rivers but instead traded up giving up 2 1st rd picks for Eli.

satz · 11-13-2006, 09:06 AM

The gaints gave rivers and a draft pick which yeilded merriman. i know he is on suspension but you got to evaluate

rivers + merriman = eli ....for now looks like a bad deal.funny how last year archie manning wanted eli traded to the chargers back as they have a better team.

Vertical Limit · 11-13-2006, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by satz

The gaints gave rivers and a draft pick which yeilded merriman. i know he is on suspension but you got to evaluate

rivers + merriman = eli ....for now looks like a bad deal.funny how last year archie manning wanted eli traded to the chargers back as they have a better team.

Hah, completely forgot about that. Wow.

nyjunc · 11-13-2006, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by satz

The gaints gave rivers and a draft pick which yeilded merriman. i know he is on suspension but you got to evaluate

rivers + merriman = eli ....for now looks like a bad deal.funny how last year archie manning wanted eli traded to the chargers back as they have a better team.

It's much worse than that:

Quote:

The Giants traded the fourth pick overall in the draft (quarterback Philip Rivers), a third-round pick this year and first- and fifth-round picks next year to the San Diego Chargers for Manning

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...with_chargers/

gofins · 11-13-2006, 10:07 AM

Possibly but I definately think E. Manning is a better than avg qb

Celtkin · 11-13-2006, 10:30 AM

I've been impressed with Rivers since watching him light up the field during his Senior Bowl. They kid is pure talent and will prove to be worth the money that SD paid him.

I just wish we could have gotten him

In_Flames · 11-13-2006, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Celtkin

I've been impressed with Rivers since watching him light up the field during his Senior Bowl. They kid is pure talent and will prove to be worth the money that SD paid him.

I just wish we could have gotten him

Rivers, Eli, Cutler or Leinart.....would have made me very happy

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DonShula84 Sporty Don Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Beach, Ca Age: 25 Posts: 13,528 Thanks: 110 Thanked 201 Times in 137 Posts	lol I was getting ready to come in here and slam this thread. I was ready to put up the 1 star lol. I agree though, Rivers looks better than Manning so far. I think Manning will be a good player though. __________________

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Pennington's Rocket Arm Playoffs in '08! Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 25 Posts: 7,494 Thanks: 30 Thanked 171 Times in 83 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 1	i agree that rivers will probably be better than manning, but both have shown signs of greatness. __________________

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nyjunc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New York Posts: 8,955 Thanks: 198 Thanked 441 Times in 199 Posts	The Giants got fleeced in that draftday trade, they could have had Ben or Rivers but instead traded up giving up 2 1st rd picks for Eli. __________________

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gofins another MD finfan Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: MD Age: 37 Posts: 1,860 Thanks: 2 Thanked 29 Times in 24 Posts	Possibly but I definately think E. Manning is a better than avg qb __________________ Ricky and Ronnie. Best tandem in the league!

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11-13-2006, 01:01 AM	#2
Martel Perennial All-Pro Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,953 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I agree

11-13-2006, 05:03 AM	#4
cltchperf Pro Bowler Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,282 Thanks: 1 Thanked 23 Times in 13 Posts	Who knows in the long run, but Manning has just as much offensive talent around him and he is not playing nearly as good as Rivers. Even though Manning does not have the best rb in the league in LT, he does have what I would say is the 2nd best back in the league and best NFC rb with Tiki Barber, plus a good rb with Brandon Jacobs, Plaxico Burress and Jeremy Shockey. But Eli still struggles, and after watching the game against the Bears it seems that he still hasn't taken his performance to the next level. Eli Manning is so streaky and inaccurate, wheras, as Rives is accurate or much more accurate than Eil Manning and seems much less streaky so far. Eli Manning has to throw much better. He has missed numerous WRs, in the game that were wide open and they were just ten yard passes, and he also had two awful passes that were way overthrown to wide open wrs that resulted in interceptions.

11-13-2006, 08:35 AM	#5
NYinBostonFin Playoffs Please!! Join Date: Jan 2005 Age: 33 Posts: 1,947 Thanks: 124 Thanked 107 Times in 66 Posts	Take LT off the chargers and put him on the giants...then tell me. Nothing against Tiki, but LT takes a lot of heat off the QB. Gates is a much better TE than shockey too. Right now, nobody could really say. But Rivers has a much better supporting cast right now.

11-13-2006, 08:50 AM	#7
Vertical Limit Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Miami, FL Age: 21 Posts: 5,729 Thanks: 156 Thanked 155 Times in 106 Posts	It is definitely starting to look that way, as if the Giants made the wrong choice in that draft. But I have a feeling that we haven't seen the best of Eli Manning yet. Each time he has the ball on his hands, and he is standing on that pocket, I always feel as if he's going to do something great. Problem Eli has to face that Philip Rivers does not is that he is surrounded by great talents on offense, but around 3 of them are selfish, loudmouth *******. Having Jeremy Shockey and Plaxico Burress on the same offense is like having TWO "San Francisco 49ers version of Terrell Owens" in your offense (I mention that version, because I really think that Terrell Owens has definitely matured now). You just can't control those two, and if you get on their face, they will back down on your team and sit on the sidelines for the rest of the game to watch you suffer [ie: Seattle vs New York game; Plaxico didn't play the entire second half..].

11-13-2006, 09:06 AM	#10
satz Seasoned Veteran Join Date: Oct 2006 Age: 32 Posts: 841 Thanks: 0 Thanked 35 Times in 23 Posts	The gaints gave rivers and a draft pick which yeilded merriman. i know he is on suspension but you got to evaluate rivers + merriman = eli ....for now looks like a bad deal.funny how last year archie manning wanted eli traded to the chargers back as they have a better team.

11-13-2006, 10:30 AM	#14
Celtkin FinHeaven Elite Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: U. Idaho Age: 51 Posts: 14,452 Thanks: 198 Thanked 536 Times in 282 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 1	I've been impressed with Rivers since watching him light up the field during his Senior Bowl. They kid is pure talent and will prove to be worth the money that SD paid him. I just wish we could have gotten him