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Old 11-14-2008, 01:12 PM   #1
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Olduvai Theory has officially come into focus


In the face of declining energy and exponential population growth, the great hoodwink on Western society is now near complete. The wealthy 1% have scrambled out the back door of a burning house, while the rest of us were sound asleep in our beds. They even took the smoke alarm. Who's going to get out alive?

When a person starts getting honest with him/herself regarding Olduvai Theory and Peak Oil, that person starts to realize why our "elected" "leaders" have been acting like unaccountable Wild West Desperados for so long... Those Bilderburg types recognized the end of industrial civilization decades ago, and they've been instructing their elected mouthpieces to start dictating and legislating accordingly (yes, that includes Clinton)... Pumping and dumping.... Invading and taking ... Hoarding and bilking... Shielding and hiding... And why not? Because very very soon? Oversight and investigations and accountability? They're not going to even exist, let alone be in place to be ignored like they are today. ... These people don't care. ... They never did... They're getting theirs before the music stops. ... What do you think Enron was all about?... Yeah, that's right... Now, we've ALL been "Enron-ed" ....

So, I'm finally just gonna say it: We're f**k*d, boys and girls. ... Whereas Rome lasted 600 years, we barely lasted 60. ... America, as we know it, is in Hospice care.

Solutions? Advice? ... OK... Learn horticulture... Get to know your neighbors intimately, maybe learn how to fire a gun, find clean drinking water... and above all, get OUT OF DEBT immediately. Sell, liquidate, ... buy gold, silver... You don't haveta let on about what you know to people on your street who aren't gonna listen anyway, and thus seem like a "crazy person" to your neighbors ... But it wouldn't hurt to know who you can trust and count on if/when law and order breaks down, and the bread trucks don't reach your town.

A fairly even-headed poster here recently called me a "purveyor of fear." That has stuck with me. He's entitled, I suppose. I didn't wanna take the red pill. Not a day goes by that I don't wish I took the blue pill and just let the cable TV wash over me in blissful ignorance to it all the past 10 years. Only a couple dozen people or so in my personal life are aware of my belief system. It's easy to pontificate on the web to the masses, however. But those people who know me are intimately aware that I follow an enormous roadmap that's vastly sourced. I'm not a religious phanatic, or anything of the kind. What I've absorbed is not baseless material at all. It's pragmatic, reasoned, rational and it's rooted in the survival of our species, not just nations.

No one likes bad news. I know I sure don't. I love the conveniences of modern society. Can't remember life without them. I love my internet, my NFL, blue ray, casinos, 500 channels, air conditioned gyms, strip clubs, etc. ... I don't wanna give ANY of that up. But what's "purveying" to me as I look around is an impression of blind trust and inaction. Both in every day life, as well as the Beltway, on Wall St. and the media. It shows just how out of touch 95% of us all truly are, even the open-minded among us.

Some RW posters here and everywhere insist we haven't come close to reaching the "depths" of the Carter Administration. That our powerful free market system will rebound. Everything will be fine in 12-24 months. That's enviable optimism. Truly. But what is it honestly based on? Are you being honest with yourself? Have we ever seen anything quite like this?

I see a different roadmap coming to fruition before our very eyes that make the Carter years look like the Roaring 20s.

So where are you? Do you dismiss it all as mere doom and gloom rantings? Or are we at end game? Do you have evidence that Peak Oil isn't real, or merely that "we'll find something else in plenty of time, we always do."

The lending crash. The credit crash. The auto industry. Gas spikes and purges. The fact that the dollar is being phased out in global markets. Layoffs. Inflation. Food costs. Is it all just mismanagement in the financial sectors? Or are they all functions of something much, much greater and more ominous?

People like Richard Duncan, Matthew Simmons, Matt Savinar, Michael Ruppert, Dr. Colin J. Campbell, among many others? They seem to side with M. King Hubbert's Peak:





Now, to be fair, the IEA just assessed that oil production wouldn't peak until 2030 -- a 'calming' oversimplification for the masses, in my view -- but at least an official policy entity is finally admitting Peak in the first place. That's fairly unprecedented.

What they're also admitting is that production efforts and investment need to be stepped up GREATLY to match population growth and demand. Where is that money going to come from? Worse, who is going to invest the $trillions required to find and produce a viable alternative? We're broke!! It will take 30 years to transfer our 800 million combustable engines over to something else, and that's if we found a "miracle battery pack" is early as tomorrow.

No. See. I believe it's too late for that, and our masters KNOW it. That all should have been started back when, ironically, Jimmy Carter WANTED to 30 years ago. That ship has sailed, and that's why we're not drilling our own shores.

There's no Manhattan Project that's going to be established to save us from energy depletion. There's no money left. Nations and ideologies are going to collide long before mankind "gets its shyt together" and finds a solution. With war comes famine, suffering, disease, blackouts. Without war, those things are still looming.

So when does this country's media, any of them, start being honest with the flock? Start mentioning the word "Peak Oil" and stop dancing around the reality staring us all dead in the face?
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Damn those Illuminati *******s! They're trying to destory mankind!

We really did land on the moon, we really did land on the moon. I'm going to keep telling myself.
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Quite sad looking at these responses. Instead of arguing and engaging in a debate it is all about sarcasm because the lack of counter arguments.

It truly reminds me of the video which was just posted here and the one guy got laughed at, fun made of......

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Quite sad looking at these responses. Instead of arguing and engaging in a debate it is all about sarcasm because the lack of counter arguments.

It truly reminds me of the video which was just posted here and the one guy got laughed at, fun made of......

To wit, you just contributed bupkus

I swear, i think you and PC are one and the same....the similarities are just eerie
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To wit, you just contributed bupkus

I swear, i think you and PC are one and the same....the similarities are just eerie
Sorta like how a klansman looks at two minorities and rationalizes to himself: "they all the same"...

Do you have anything to offer regarding Peak Oil, or are you just here to be your Smarm-King-like self?
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Don't misrepresent my position please. I never said anything remotely approaching that.
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Sorta like how a klansman looks at two minorities and rationalizes to himself: "they all the same"...

Do you have anything to offer regarding Peak Oil, or are you just here to be your Smarm-King-like self?
If you would look back in the past, i have supported your peak oil contentions

I have not supported your conspiracy theories

I figured you to be smart enough to remember that, since you can remember obscure posts from years ago
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People have been professing doom and gloom since the beginning of civilization. That being said, I am not dismissing this theory, nobody should. However, there are certain assumptions that Olduvai makes and is reliant upon.

PC, have you read any critiques of Olduvai theory?
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Don't misrepresent my position please. I never said anything remotely approaching that.
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If you would look back in the past, i have supported your peak oil contentions

I have not supported your conspiracy theories
That's fine. Few people want to acknowledge that a group of wealthy, greedy elite bankers control almost every aspect of this nation's direction... It leaves them feeling powerless, and that's unacceptable for most conservatives to get their head around.
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We did rise from the Great Depression, so there's precedent for recovery.

I'd like to address this quote of yours.

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In the Rotorom engine, fuel burns inside a sealed chamber, which has the ability to expand. Rather than pushing on a piston, the chamber expands while rotating, and this movement creates power. Remaining pressure can be released via a turbine, which then powers a compressor.
I'm actually against pervasive SOV usage, but at least we do have this option. It's a matter of implementing it.
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Thats the problem. We have the technology already. The problem is the price makes it unfeasible for the average American. Even if it were affordable, I don't see people giving up their V8 350 engines for an electric motor. Selfishness is the reason this is a problem. Selfishness by companies charging way more than they should for alternative energies, and selfishness by the consumer in what they want to use...
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Thats the problem. We have the technology already. The problem is the price makes it unfeasible for the average American. Even if it were affordable, I don't see people giving up their V8 350 engines for an electric motor. Selfishness is the reason this is a problem. Selfishness by companies charging way more than they should for alternative energies, and selfishness by the consumer in what they want to use...
I was talking about transit. That is implementable, but it requires implementing a building pattern that supports transit.
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Solutions? Advice? ... OK... Learn horticulture... Get to know your neighbors intimately, maybe learn how to fire a gun, find clean drinking water... and above all, get OUT OF DEBT immediately. Sell, liquidate, ... buy gold, silver... You don't haveta let on about what you know to people on your street who aren't gonna listen anyway, and thus seem like a "crazy person" to your neighbors ... But it wouldn't hurt to know who you can trust and count on if/when law and order breaks down, and the bread trucks don't reach your town.

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Well, it's great advice to get out of debt. It's always been great advice. As to the rest, sorry, but very few people in America live in a place that would allow them to be self sufficient if the infrastructure broke down. Even here in rural Texas, I don't know anyone who could live completely off the land. The population in this country is just too dense for that.
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