AFC Notes: Offseason Winners & Losers (merged)

dolphan39 · 07-10-2003, 11:35 AM

AFC Notes: Offseason Winners & Losers by Rick Kamla

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(Disclaimer: Defensive upgrades or downgrades were not considered in determining the offseason winners and losers. I repeat: This article has nothing to do with DEFENSE.)

Offseason Winners
10. Miami Dolphins: The Dolphins were quasi-winners during the offseason. Certainly, the free agent trade of Ray Lucas for Brian Griese improved and insured the offense. That said, they did nothing to upgrade an average offensive line, Chris Chambers continues to battle injuries, and they still lack a No. 2 receiver.

Offseason Losers
5. New England Patriots
2. New York Jets
1. Buffalo Bills The Bills ostensibly traded Peerless Price for Willis McGahee. That ranks as the worst move of the offseason

zach13 · 07-10-2003, 12:14 PM

Great stuff.

The article actually had a lot more to say negatively about the Bills:

"Trading a young Pro-Bowl receiver for a running back who may never play pro ball could go down as one of the worst trades ever. The Bills also royally screwed up at kicker, going out of their way to sign the inconsistent Rian Lindell when they already had the steady Mike Hollis. Worse yet, the Bills are paying Lindell over a mill a year for the next four years. Amanda Bynes could do a better job running this team."

Justasportsfan · 07-10-2003, 12:29 PM

Yeah, that was from yahoo.com written by a yahoo.

dolphan39 · 07-10-2003, 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by justafan
Yeah, that was from yahoo.com written by a yahoo.

he's actually from fanball.com, but you think McGahee for Price is a good trade for the Bills ?

MarinoFan · 07-10-2003, 12:31 PM

Had it said Buffalo made the best moves, YAHOO would be the top of the line sportsread.

iceblizzard69 · 07-10-2003, 12:41 PM

Dude, that article SUCKED! BIG TIME!

First of all, they had us having the 10th best offseason in the AFC? That isn't good. They don't even mention Seau or Knight, and in most of them all they talk about is the draft. I like how they ripped on other teams, but that article was pretty bad. They had the Colts as a winner although they lost Peterson? The article has the Steelers above us just because they lost Kordell Stewart. The Steelers also lost a pretty good tackle in Wayne Gandy. Their offseason wasn't good. They have the Jaguars as winners for drafting Leftwich? Excuse me, but signing Hugh Douglas was pretty good, that is why they are winners. They also have the Bills as bigger losers than the Jets? The Bills signed a very good LB in Takeo Spikes, but of course that gets no mention. I could rip that article for days because it is so stupid.

Justasportsfan · 07-10-2003, 12:41 PM

Nobody knows whether it's a good or bad pick yet until he hits the field. It could very well be the worse pick or the best . Nobody has come up with a name that would've been a great pick for the bills at 23. Everyone thought Kelsay and we got him in the 2nd rd.

I know it's just an opinion. He's opinion though says it's a definite bust. Price for McGahee was not a trade. Price was gone no matter what because he was asking a no. 1 salary.

Justasportsfan · 07-10-2003, 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by iceblizzard69
Dude, that article SUCKED! BIG TIME!

First of all, they had us having the 10th best offseason in the AFC? That isn't good. They don't even mention Seau or Knight, and in most of them all they talk about is the draft. I like how they ripped on other teams, but that article was pretty bad. They had the Colts as a winner although they lost Peterson? The article has the Steelers above us just because they lost Kordell Stewart. The Steelers also lost a pretty good tackle in Wayne Gandy. Their offseason wasn't good. They have the Jaguars as winners for drafting Leftwich? Excuse me, but signing Hugh Douglas was pretty good, that is why they are winners. They also have the Bills as bigger losers than the Jets? The Bills signed a very good LB in Takeo Spikes, but of course that gets no mention. I could rip that article for days because it is so stupid.

His disclaimer said it had nothing to do with the D, ice. Just O.

dolphan39 · 07-10-2003, 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by iceblizzard69
Dude, that article SUCKED! BIG TIME!

you missed this part "(Disclaimer: Defensive upgrades or downgrades were not considered in determining the offseason winners and losers. I repeat: This article has nothing to do with DEFENSE.)"

M-REAL · 07-10-2003, 12:53 PM

I LOVE what they said about the Buffalo buttheads, that was great but true stuff! Seeing the Fins enemies getting bashed for what it really is was energizing to say the least. Props 39 for the article.:cool:

MarinoFan · 07-10-2003, 12:56 PM

DUH, as far as offense goes, we didn't do anything. Had they said omit offense, and only include defense, we would be in the top two.

Justasportsfan · 07-10-2003, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by marcusreal
I LOVE what they said about the Buffalo buttheads, that was great but true stuff! Seeing the Fins enemies getting bashed for what it really is was energizing to say the least. Props 39 for the article.:cool:

Of course you'd love to read an article bashing the bills after we swept you last year. The article was pure opinion, the sweep is fact!

nyjetsfan7419 · 07-10-2003, 01:00 PM

winners:JETS getting DEEEWAYNE TRAIN
losers:miami wasting money on old man sr seau, and tilt the bottle griese(looks like he'll help tear down his fathers legacy), on the plus side bars in miami will do a hundred times more business
winners:JETS FOR JUST BEING THE JETS AND REPEATING AS AFC EAST CHAMPS

MarinoFan · 07-10-2003, 01:02 PM

You always must chime in with something huh. Dude, we all love it when they talk bad about any of our rivals. Geez, soon your posts are going to look like

"sweep sweep sweep , sweep sweep sweep sweep , sweep sweep !!"

Can't you add anything worth while?

CRAZYDOLFAN305 · 07-10-2003, 01:15 PM

Well while we are bringing facts from the past, how about us sweeping you guys the previous two years in a row. I keep saying there's no more of Mucas. So the more dhit you guys talk the worst it's going to be in here after Sept. 21..

07-10-2003, 12:14 PM	#2
zach13 Mad Dog Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Miami Age: 40 Posts: 9,124 Credits: 3,440 Thanks: 50 Thanked 145 Times in 78 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 2	Great stuff. The article actually had a lot more to say negatively about the Bills: "Trading a young Pro-Bowl receiver for a running back who may never play pro ball could go down as one of the worst trades ever. The Bills also royally screwed up at kicker, going out of their way to sign the inconsistent Rian Lindell when they already had the steady Mike Hollis. Worse yet, the Bills are paying Lindell over a mill a year for the next four years. Amanda Bynes could do a better job running this team." __________________ Free Tibet [IMG]http://************/POFO/pofomofo-warp.jpg[/IMG]

07-10-2003, 12:31 PM	#5
MarinoFan Ralph Wilson after this season Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Miami Age: 30 Posts: 2,206 Credits: 1,152 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Had it said Buffalo made the best moves, YAHOO would be the top of the line sportsread. __________________ "OFFSEASON? We don't need no stinking offseason"

07-10-2003, 12:53 PM	#10
M-REAL "Another Battle, for the AFC East Title" Join Date: May 2003 Location: EverGlades, FLA Age: 32 Posts: 1,134 Credits: 1,121 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I LOVE what they said about the Buffalo buttheads, that was great but true stuff! Seeing the Fins enemies getting bashed for what it really is was energizing to say the least. Props 39 for the article.:cool: __________________ "Before the Bills, Jets, or Pats, can reach the playoffs, the road passes thru Miami!"

07-10-2003, 12:56 PM	#11
MarinoFan Ralph Wilson after this season Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Miami Age: 30 Posts: 2,206 Credits: 1,152 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	DUH, as far as offense goes, we didn't do anything. Had they said omit offense, and only include defense, we would be in the top two. __________________ "OFFSEASON? We don't need no stinking offseason"

07-10-2003, 01:02 PM	#14
MarinoFan Ralph Wilson after this season Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Miami Age: 30 Posts: 2,206 Credits: 1,152 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You always must chime in with something huh. Dude, we all love it when they talk bad about any of our rivals. Geez, soon your posts are going to look like "sweep sweep sweep , sweep sweep sweep sweep , sweep sweep !!" Can't you add anything worth while? __________________ "OFFSEASON? We don't need no stinking offseason"

07-10-2003, 12:29 PM	#3
Justasportsfan FinHeaven Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,530 Credits: 2,170 Thanks: 9 Thanked 46 Times in 24 Posts	Yeah, that was from yahoo.com written by a yahoo.

07-10-2003, 12:41 PM	#6
iceblizzard69 FinHeaven Elite Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: On an island Age: 21 Posts: 13,387 Credits: 1,000 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dude, that article SUCKED! BIG TIME! First of all, they had us having the 10th best offseason in the AFC? That isn't good. They don't even mention Seau or Knight, and in most of them all they talk about is the draft. I like how they ripped on other teams, but that article was pretty bad. They had the Colts as a winner although they lost Peterson? The article has the Steelers above us just because they lost Kordell Stewart. The Steelers also lost a pretty good tackle in Wayne Gandy. Their offseason wasn't good. They have the Jaguars as winners for drafting Leftwich? Excuse me, but signing Hugh Douglas was pretty good, that is why they are winners. They also have the Bills as bigger losers than the Jets? The Bills signed a very good LB in Takeo Spikes, but of course that gets no mention. I could rip that article for days because it is so stupid.

07-10-2003, 01:00 PM	#13
nyjetsfan7419 Rookie Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 12 Credits: 1,001 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	winners:JETS getting DEEEWAYNE TRAIN losers:miami wasting money on old man sr seau, and tilt the bottle griese(looks like he'll help tear down his fathers legacy), on the plus side bars in miami will do a hundred times more business winners:JETS FOR JUST BEING THE JETS AND REPEATING AS AFC EAST CHAMPS

07-10-2003, 01:15 PM	#15
CRAZYDOLFAN305 We Are Still Going To The SB Join Date: May 2002 Location: MIAMI, FL Age: 29 Posts: 2,209 Credits: 261 Thanks: 3 Thanked 51 Times in 24 Posts	Well while we are bringing facts from the past, how about us sweeping you guys the previous two years in a row. I keep saying there's no more of Mucas. So the more dhit you guys talk the worst it's going to be in here after Sept. 21.. __________________ COLOSUS: "What's Your Number"- NEW SINGLE. http://www.zshare.net/audio/105374663550787d/ www.myspace.com/colosus3000 Beck in '09 or '10. Sometime in the near horizon..

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