James Hardy

Wagon Circler · 05-01-2008, 03:25 PM

What are other AFCE fans impression of 6'6'' wide receiver James Hardy and his possible impact next year for the bills?

WISfinfan13 · 05-01-2008, 03:50 PM

Since hes a Bill he is bound to bust.

COMEBACKRICKY · 05-01-2008, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WISfinfan13

Since hes a Bill he is bound to bust.

Lol! But seriously I think he could be a probowl type player. Hopefully I am wrong!!

WISfinfan13 · 05-01-2008, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by COMEBACKRICKY

Lol! But seriously I think he could be a probowl type player. Hopefully I am wrong!!

Hes unpolished, but with the right coaching he will be very good.

jp2lee783 · 05-01-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WISfinfan13

Hes unpolished, but with the right coaching he will be very good.

Much like Ted Ginn Jr.

Vertical Limit · 05-01-2008, 04:27 PM

Except he's a giant and Ginn isn't. lol

Jetsfan0099 · 05-01-2008, 07:16 PM

He has talent and stuff, I am worried about playing him, we use to stink against tall WRs, like guys like Moore from the Ravens, that 6-6 WR torched us back in 2004. But we have Darrelle Revis who I think would shut him out, because I don't think Hardy is good getting off the line, and Revis is amazing at pressing the WR, Terrell Owens had a hard time verse Revis getting off the line. But then we leave our shut down CB on Hardy, that would leave Evans open, I guess we could double him though. But basically it gives you guys a good complement to Evans.

Jetsfan0099 · 05-01-2008, 07:18 PM

What I hate about the Bills is they do like a million short passes in a game, like they will take a bunch of 3 step then throw passes, its hard to sack their QB because of it. I hope our new pass rush owns the AFC east this year, I am hoping for 40+ sacks this season as a team.

Brassmonki14120 · 05-01-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetsfan0099

He has talent and stuff, I am worried about playing him, we use to stink against tall WRs, like guys like Moore from the Ravens, that 6-6 WR torched us back in 2004. But we have Darrelle Revis who I think would shut him out, because I don't think Hardy is good getting off the line, and Revis is amazing at pressing the WR, Terrell Owens had a hard time verse Revis getting off the line. But then we leave our shut down CB on Hardy, that would leave Evans open, I guess we could double him though. But basically it gives you guys a good complement to Evans.

Hardy wont be winning any foot races.

He does catch just about everything that's thrown his way and always wins when going up for the ball. It'll take a tall, physical guy to keep the ball out of Hardy's hands when the Bills throw to him.

Jetsfan0099 · 05-02-2008, 07:00 AM

Revis is taller for a CB at 6'0 and he is very physical, what I am saying is that Revis would press him and Hardy won't get off the line and the pass rush will get to the QB before he can throw to him. Remember Revis lines up against Randy Moss the 2nd game and pretty much shutted him out, because Revis was too physical and fast. Hes going to end up being a top 5 CB in the league, thats how good I think hes is.

TNdolfan54 · 05-02-2008, 12:27 PM

I think hes a decent pickup..
and i had no idea revis was doing that well..i really hadn't heard much from him. I'm guessing you jets fans are happy with him?

TheCommonMan · 05-02-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brassmonki14120

Hardy wont be winning any foot races.

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Well Revis ran a 4.39, Hardy ran a 4.45

Not THAt big a difference.

I think Hardy is plenty fast when you factor in his vertical and his height... the guy simply can't be covered in a jump ball situation if the ball is thrown right.

Jetsfan0099 · 05-02-2008, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TNdolfan54

I think hes a decent pickup..
and i had no idea revis was doing that well..i really hadn't heard much from him. I'm guessing you jets fans are happy with him?

Yea all Jets fans are happy with Revis, definitely the top CB from that draft. He started a little slow, but once he got into his groove he was consistently lining up against #1 WRs and containing them. He played against Randy Moss, Braylon Edwards, Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson. And he held his own against them, you can't really expect any better then what he did as a rookie for a team with a lack of pass rush.

Jetsfan0099 · 05-02-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCommonMan

Well Revis ran a 4.39, Hardy ran a 4.45

Not THAt big a difference.

I think Hardy is plenty fast when you factor in his vertical and his height... the guy simply can't be covered in a jump ball situation if the ball is thrown right.

The difference is Hardy has a hard time getting off of press coverage, so Revis would jam him at the line and Hardy would have a hard time getting anywhere.

TNdolfan54 · 05-02-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jetsfan0099

Yea all Jets fans are happy with Revis, definitely the top CB from that draft. He started a little slow, but once he got into his groove he was consistently lining up against #1 WRs and containing them. He played against Randy Moss, Braylon Edwards, Terrell Owens, Chad Johnson. And he held his own against them, you can't really expect any better then what he did as a rookie for a team with a lack of pass rush.

oh impressive, i had no idea. good pick up

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Jetsfan0099 Scout Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 254 Thanks: 11 Thanked 16 Times in 14 Posts	He has talent and stuff, I am worried about playing him, we use to stink against tall WRs, like guys like Moore from the Ravens, that 6-6 WR torched us back in 2004. But we have Darrelle Revis who I think would shut him out, because I don't think Hardy is good getting off the line, and Revis is amazing at pressing the WR, Terrell Owens had a hard time verse Revis getting off the line. But then we leave our shut down CB on Hardy, that would leave Evans open, I guess we could double him though. But basically it gives you guys a good complement to Evans. __________________

05-01-2008, 07:18 PM	#8
Jetsfan0099 Scout Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 254 Thanks: 11 Thanked 16 Times in 14 Posts	What I hate about the Bills is they do like a million short passes in a game, like they will take a bunch of 3 step then throw passes, its hard to sack their QB because of it. I hope our new pass rush owns the AFC east this year, I am hoping for 40+ sacks this season as a team. __________________

05-02-2008, 07:00 AM	#10
Jetsfan0099 Scout Team Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 254 Thanks: 11 Thanked 16 Times in 14 Posts	Revis is taller for a CB at 6'0 and he is very physical, what I am saying is that Revis would press him and Hardy won't get off the line and the pass rush will get to the QB before he can throw to him. Remember Revis lines up against Randy Moss the 2nd game and pretty much shutted him out, because Revis was too physical and fast. Hes going to end up being a top 5 CB in the league, thats how good I think hes is. __________________

05-02-2008, 12:27 PM	#11
TNdolfan54 Scout Team Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 62 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I think hes a decent pickup.. and i had no idea revis was doing that well..i really hadn't heard much from him. I'm guessing you jets fans are happy with him?

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