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Old 03-10-2008, 02:22 PM   #1
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Jets owner trying to buy Super Bowl?


Jets owner trying to buy Super Bowl?

Is Woody Johnson feeling the pressure of the Giants' championship and as a result opening the checkbook and letting GM Mike Tannenbaum and coach Eric Mangini spend like teenagers who just got their parents' credit card? "This is really more about the Jets and our plan," Tannenbaum told the Daily News. "We still philosophically believe in building through the draft and re-signing our own players. This was a situation where we felt we had areas we wanted to improve based on how the team played last year, and we had opportunities to satisfy those needs. I respect and admire what the Giants did and I really like those people over there and I am really happy for them. We're trying to build the best team we can over here." The Jets went on what is probably the wildest four-day spending binge in history: Between their signings of Alan Faneca, Calvin Pace and Damien Woody and their trade for Kris Jenkins, they took on $137 million worth of contracts, including $63 million guaranteed. Not one of the players is a game-changer, although they represent upgrades over what the Jets had last year. -- NY Daily News
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:29 PM   #2
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Atleast it looks like an upgrade. There are teams out there like the Cardinals, that have much more money invested according to the cap, and still would be lucky to reach .500.
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Old 03-11-2008, 02:06 PM   #3
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They are, but too bad they aint going to do ****. Overpaying for old, often-injured and some no name guys isnt going to get you a Super Bowl.
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They're trying to improve an awful team, and like most other teams are obviously aiming at a world championship. I'm sure the pressure to compete with the Giants is there, but i wouldn't say the Jets are "buying" a super bowl. Certainly if they think the moves they've made thus far this off-season will get them anywhere near a super bowl, they're mistaken. Not with the Patriots in the division and the rest of the AFC being very strong.
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It wont work, Faneca is over the hill and they spent alot of money on alot of nothin
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Look, if the Jets went out and blew there wad on the biggest names with no rhyme or reason then yea, I'd agree that they were trying to buy a SB...that or they became the Redskins overnight.

Fact is, every spot they've addressed was a big need. The contracts are nowhere near as bad as some people like to think, and, whether you call it desperation, trying to buy a SB, whatever, it shows they're trying to improve the team. I'll take that any day of the week over letting the best available talent slip away to save a few bucks.
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Old 03-11-2008, 04:15 PM   #7
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They are, but too bad they aint going to do ****. Overpaying for old, often-injured and some no name guys isnt going to get you a Super Bowl.
Outside of woody who is "often injured"? Faneca has missed 1 game this decade, Pace had a freak injury in '06 but has played in every game in his 4 other years in the league, Jenkins has played in 31 of 32 games the past 2 tears.

I guess you meant Justin Smiley and Jason ferguson when you were talking about oft-injured players as Smiley played 8 games last year and Fersuson in 3 seasons after collecting a big pay day has started in just 22 of 48 games and played in just 1 game overall last year.
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They aren't doing it the right way, we are. Rebuild through younger/cheaper guys.

See the Redskins. Money doesn't buy you anything but salary cap hell
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They aren't doing it the right way, we are. Rebuild through younger/cheaper guys.

See the Redskins. Money doesn't buy you anything but salary cap hell
We aren't building through FA, we are plugging a few holes. We have built through the draft, our LT and C are drafted players, our WRs were drafted, our TE, our big play threat at RB, our pass rushing DE, half our Lbs including our best LB, our shutdown corner and our great Safety. We have added pieces around them, if we were overspending every year i'd agree we were doing it the skins way but this is not a normal thing we are doing, we NEVER spend big $ on FAs but some quality guys in areas of need were avaialble and we spent.

Remember the only guy that was really overtpaid was Pace and you guys were wiloling to go to $20 mil guaranteed.
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It wont work, Faneca is over the hill and they spent alot of money on alot of nothin
Faneca isn't over the hill IMO.

The guy is still a top mauler.
Having said that, I don't see this team as being ready to make a run and Faneca probably dosen't have a number of years left so his impact may not be maximized as it may have been if he went to another team.

Before Jet fans jump all over me, Yes, I think it would have even been an even worse decision for him to come to Miami.
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We aren't building through FA, we are plugging a few holes. We have built through the draft, our LT and C are drafted players, our WRs were drafted, our TE, our big play threat at RB, our pass rushing DE, half our Lbs including our best LB, our shutdown corner and our great Safety. We have added pieces around them, if we were overspending every year i'd agree we were doing it the skins way but this is not a normal thing we are doing, we NEVER spend big $ on FAs but some quality guys in areas of need were avaialble and we spent.

Remember the only guy that was really overtpaid was Pace and you guys were wiloling to go to $20 mil guaranteed.
Our front office was, I thought 15 mill guaranteed was already overpaying the guy.
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Old 03-11-2008, 05:41 PM   #12
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The contracts are nowhere near as bad as some people like to think, and, whether you call it desperation, trying to buy a SB, whatever, as perJets81

the NY Daily News is say that not me...
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Aren't a lot of owners trying to buy a Superbowl, ours included?

I think they did good, they will defenitely be able to do some mauling along the lines, and that will be a good thing against their real rivals, the pats.
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Aren't a lot of owners trying to buy a Superbowl, ours included?

I think they did good, they will defenitely be able to do some mauling along the lines, and that will be a good thing against their real rivals, the pats.
Yeah, I know. The idea here is to win. Ya gotta have the players to do that. And oddly enough those players expect to get paid. Even more strange is that the better players want more than the mediocre players....go figure..
Not much different from pointing at the guy getting a car loan and saying he's trying to buy a car.
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Old 03-13-2008, 05:23 PM   #15
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We aren't building through FA, we have many many holes. So the Jets decided that they can not fill every hole in the draft. So they decided that they will go out and spend for once, remember the Jets are known for being Cheap. When do we ever have a spending spree in FA?? Tannenbaum said when he became the GM, that he wants to build the team through the draft. He also said that he wants to use FA to fill as many holes as possible so we can take the Best available player in the draft. So we are not locked to have to take anyone for a need. Since Tannenbaum and Mangini took over, they spent 2 seasons signing cheap no name guys and they ended up being horrible and getting released. Our drafts have been gold under Tannenbaum and Mangini, but the FA period has stunk. But they saved up money for this. They believe signing a vet like Faneca can help Mangold and Ferguson develop more, and Woody they believe can be a good RT, they watched him play RT last year and were impressed. There are no NT in the draft, well any dominant ones, so making a move for Jenkins was smart. They also think Calvin Pace is a complete LB, that he is very talented and athletic, can drop into coverage and rush the passer. Remember Bill Parcells wanted him too, but Pace happened to like the direction that the Jets were going more, and couldn't refuse the deal.
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