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Old 03-17-2008, 10:43 AM   #16
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Exactly! He was signed more as a blocker where all those stats we were discussing last week are irrelevant. he wasn't signed to be a pass catching TE. Like I said, he was never great but he gives us good depth at a cheap price.
You claimed he was nothing special as a put down in comparing him to your boy Becht. Remember, the TE who you proclaimed "as good a blocking TE as we have seen in the NFL this decade." So if Franks had nothing on Becht in the blocking department what are you saying now?



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You ran away from the last argument we had after i showed you the groh article and now you are just trying to get something over on me but it's not working.
Ran away? You really don't get it. Your whole argument was 'since Parcells said it, it must be true.' And I totally smashed that idea with several examples of why you should never, ever believe what he says but judge him by his actions. But I guess you missed the school lesson about history repeating itself.

Do I have to remind you about what took place prior to Groh's hire. About the PR nightmare that was Belichick turning Parcells down. Oh yeah, why do you think he declined BP's offer? Big Bill had to save face and try to show that the eventual jests HC wouldn't be a puppet. This didn't get past people who knew better.

Junky I thought you could put 2 & 2 together but I guess not. The only one trying to run away is you but to no avail. Your puppet strings won't allow you to.
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Old 03-17-2008, 02:48 PM   #17
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Bubba isn't known as a receiving TE, he was never known for that, he is a physical blocking TE, that is a good redzone target, his career high in TD was 9 in a season. I suspect him more to be a blocker with us, only a 1 year 1 mil deal, who can potentially be our #2 TE and be a good blocker for us. Baker is the TE that will see the catches, seeing he has soft hands, decent speed, and seems like he is getting better every year.
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Old 03-17-2008, 03:17 PM   #18
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You claimed he was nothing special as a put down in comparing him to your boy Becht. Remember, the TE who you proclaimed "as good a blocking TE as we have seen in the NFL this decade." So if Franks had nothing on Becht in the blocking department what are you saying now?
You are insane. When did I crow about Franks? Whend did I compare him w/ becht blocking wise? I said he's a low risk signing who gives us good depth.

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Ran away? You really don't get it. Your whole argument was 'since Parcells said it, it must be true.' And I totally smashed that idea with several examples of why you should never, ever believe what he says but judge him by his actions. But I guess you missed the school lesson about history repeating itself.
You didn't smash anything, you had no response to that artilce. Parcells said it, groh said it, they all said it. Parcells gave all the blame to Groh for the Key trdae at first then when it turned out ok he wanted credit. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. The only think parcells did for us in Jan of '01 was cost us Bill Belichick.

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Do I have to remind you about what took place prior to Groh's hire. About the PR nightmare that was Belichick turning Parcells down. Oh yeah, why do you think he declined BP's offer? Big Bill had to save face and try to show that the eventual jests HC wouldn't be a puppet. This didn't get past people who knew better.
There's a difference, he didn't trust parcells. Parcells was done, he didn't even want to work in 2001. he bolted immediately after the '01 season and if BB stayed he would have stayed out of his business but BB didn't trust him.

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Junky I thought you could put 2 & 2 together but I guess not. The only one trying to run away is you but to no avail. Your puppet strings won't allow you to.
Just re-read this nonsese you are typing it's unintended comedy at it's finest.
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Old 03-17-2008, 04:45 PM   #19
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bubba franks


just heard on espn the jets signed him .man now this is one guy we should have went after .local boy good player wtf
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Old 03-17-2008, 04:47 PM   #20
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Are you going by his name? Because he has been terrible the last couple of seasons. This is why it would be bad if we signed big names in free agency.
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Old 03-17-2008, 04:57 PM   #21
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Another old, washed up, player signed by the Jets. I love the desperation mode the Jets are in to win now. Too bad they wont win **** with these signings. I love hearing and reading Jets fans responses to all the signings trying to pretend they are all excellent players that will definitely make them win a Super Bowl now. Its pathetic and I love it. Jets are trying to buy a Super Bowl, just like the Redskins always do, and you can see how its worked for them. Even with these signings, Jets wont win more than 6 games.
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:25 PM   #22
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Another old, washed up, player signed by the Jets. I love the desperation mode the Jets are in to win now. Too bad they wont win **** with these signings. I love hearing and reading Jets fans responses to all the signings trying to pretend they are all excellent players that will definitely make them win a Super Bowl now. Its pathetic and I love it. Jets are trying to buy a Super Bowl, just like the Redskins always do, and you can see how its worked for them. Even with these signings, Jets wont win more than 6 games.

As compared top Porters signing last year?? I love it how your signings are smart and rated high, yet our signings are reaches and they will be busts. SHow me where any of us Jet's fans on here said that we were going to the SB now. They may be excellent players, they may not be. Whats pathetic is how you fins fans are acting like your the class of the league after coming off a 1-15 season. By the way, he was signed as a back-up.
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Old 03-17-2008, 07:51 PM   #23
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Are they out of money yet???? Where are they getting it?....... Oprah???
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Another old, washed up, player signed by the Jets. I love the desperation mode the Jets are in to win now. Too bad they wont win **** with these signings. I love hearing and reading Jets fans responses to all the signings trying to pretend they are all excellent players that will definitely make them win a Super Bowl now. Its pathetic and I love it. Jets are trying to buy a Super Bowl, just like the Redskins always do, and you can see how its worked for them. Even with these signings, Jets wont win more than 6 games.
Pathetic is talking trash coming off of a 1-15 season.
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The Jets signed Franks to a short money deal to be our backup TE. Where's the harm in that? How exactly is this a bad move by the Jets?

Bubba isn't the threat he was 5 years ago, but he's still one of the better blocking TE's in the league and provides a solid redzone target.

It's a solid, veteran depth signing.
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Pathetic is talking trash coming off of a 1-15 season.
Its not trash talk, its called REALITY. Step into it sometime, your really missing out. If the Jets went out and signed Martin Gramatica, you all would get a hard on and say how great of a signing it was. It doesnt matter who you guys bring in, you think its a great move. I said it before and I'll say it again, the Jets wont win 6 games this year. What are you going to in 2 years when half the team retires?
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Its not trash talk, its called REALITY. Step into it sometime, your really missing out. If the Jets went out and signed Martin Gramatica, you all would get a hard on and say how great of a signing it was. It doesnt matter who you guys bring in, you think its a great move. I said it before and I'll say it again, the Jets wont win 6 games this year. What are you going to in 2 years when half the team retires?
Whats really happening is every-time we sign someone, a Fin fan or another teams fan comes in and says why the guy sucks or why it's a bad move. We defend our team if we agree with there moves. Signing Bubba Franks is not a bad move just because fans of another team say so.

It's actually rather humorous that you guys feel the need to make a thread about every guy we sign, and proceed to make it out to be the worst move of all time. I won't even address the rest, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
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Its not trash talk, its called REALITY. Step into it sometime, your really missing out. If the Jets went out and signed Martin Gramatica, you all would get a hard on and say how great of a signing it was. It doesnt matter who you guys bring in, you think its a great move. I said it before and I'll say it again, the Jets wont win 6 games this year. What are you going to in 2 years when half the team retires?

You seem to be confused. What happens is if Miami has a chance to sign these players the players are great but then if they sign elsewhere they all of a sudden suck. Calvin Pace was a God on this board when you guys thought you were getting him but since he signed w/ the Jets you guys didn't want him all along

I actually think the Jets and Dolphins have had good offseasons. I think we did a little better and we obviously had more talent going into FA so we are alot closer to competing than you guys are. I do think that both teams will be alot better this year and beyond. It would be hard to be worse than we were a year ago.
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I said it before and I'll say it again, the Jets wont win 6 games this year. What are you going to in 2 years when half the team retires?
You are right about that so I will give you some credit, we will not win 6 games. We will win alot more than 6 games.
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Whats really happening is every-time we sign someone, a Fin fan or another teams fan comes in and says why the guy sucks or why it's a bad move. We defend our team if we agree with there moves. Signing Bubba Franks is not a bad move just because fans of another team say so.

It's actually rather humorous that you guys feel the need to make a thread about every guy we sign, and proceed to make it out to be the worst move of all time. I won't even address the rest, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Signing Franks isnt a bad move because fans of another says so, its a bad move because its a bad move. Maybe if they got him a few years ago it would be viewed differently, but whether he is brought in as a backup or not, hes not that great.

I agree, I cant stand when every time a player is cut or released there becomes 50 "xxxx was cut, we should sign him" threads. It doesnt only happen here, it happens everywhere. If you dont like reading those threads here, then get out of these Dolphin boards.
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