NFL Wants Ability to Destroy Whatever Walsh Turns Over

MattM · 03-09-2008, 10:33 AM

Incredible, if true, considering what happened in the past (i.e., the destruction of evidence before anyone else could see and judge it). I've highlighted what to me is the most interesting part here. Does this leave any doubt that the SB Walkthrough most likely exists and the League is trying to protect the Pats* behind and sweep this under the rug? This is totally outrageous and should be reported by the mainstream media as such. Although you may need to wait until h-e-double hockey sticks freezes over before mainstream media outlets with ties to the NFL (think ESPN) give this story the attention it deserves rather than making excuses for the Pats* as to "everyone else does it", etc.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/sp...ts&oref=slogin

Specter Raises New Questions on Spying

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By GREG BISHOP
Published: March 9, 2008

Senator Arlen Specter said Saturday that he doubted the N.F.L. would ever talk to Matt Walsh, the former New England video assistant who may have information about the Patriotsâ€™ spying tactics.

â€œIâ€™d like to issue a challenge to the commissioner to make public the extensive exchange of correspondence between the leagueâ€™s lawyers and Walshâ€™s lawyers,â€ Specter, a Republican from Pennsylvania, said in a phone interview after reviewing that correspondence.....

â€œAny objective or accurate reading of the correspondence would show the N.F.L. is trying to discourage Walsh from coming forward,â€ Specter said. â€œEspecially the requirement in the letter, where the N.F.L. calls for the destruction of whatever Walsh turns over without any provision for me or anyone else to see it.â€

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Lobofin39 · 03-09-2008, 10:42 AM

Two things.

1. This should definately heat up the debate

2. The mods will be informing you not to post an entire article in 8, 7, 6, 5..............

MR NFLFAN · 03-09-2008, 10:59 AM

There was no federal or civil law broken so why does he think he's entitled to view anything? Just more of the same old Grandstanding from the Senator.....
Its too bad he hasn't put as much time and energy into fixing the social securty system. Your tax dollars at work as usual.

Ronnie Bass · 03-09-2008, 11:42 AM

All this does is reinforced my opinion that Mr. Goodell is one of the sleaziest and arrogant sports commissioners ever.

Jets81 · 03-09-2008, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobofin39

Two things.

1. This should definately heat up the debate

2. The mods will be informing you not to post an entire article in 8, 7, 6, 5..............

Curious, why are people not supposed to post full articles? Can the site be sued or something?

Ronnie Bass · 03-09-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jets81

Curious, why are people not supposed to post full articles? Can the site be sued or something?

Copyright infringement, you can only post a few paragraphs from a story.

As far as getting sued I don't think any author/writer would go to those lengths to try collect civil damages if there are any, but you still need to play within the rules.

MattM · 03-09-2008, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie Bass

Copyright infringement, you can only post a few paragraphs from a story.

As far as getting sued I don't think any author/writer would go to those lengths to try collect civil damages if there are any, but you still need to play within the rules.

Can I just link and highlight what I want to highlight then? I'll go back and fix my original post.

MattM · 03-09-2008, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR NFLFAN

There was no federal or civil law broken so why does he think he's entitled to view anything? Just more of the same old Grandstanding from the Senator.....
Its too bad he hasn't put as much time and energy into fixing the social securty system. Your tax dollars at work as usual.

Whatever gets you through the dark of night, knowing your team are a bunch of dirty cheaters shortly to be exposed for all the world to see. But then again, I guess you'll just go back to rooting for the 'Boys, Steelers, G-Men or whoever you used to root for before 2001 like most of the rest of the Pats* "fanbase"......

TomBradyWoot · 03-09-2008, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattM

Whatever gets you through the dark of night, knowing your team are a bunch of dirty cheaters shortly to be exposed for all the world to see. But then again, I guess you'll just go back to rooting for the 'Boys, Steelers, G-Men or whoever you used to root for before 2001 like most of the rest of the Pats* "fanbase"......

Buffalo's going to the super bowl!!!

jimmy42jack0 · 03-09-2008, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR NFLFAN

There was no federal or civil law broken so why does he think he's entitled to view anything? Just more of the same old Grandstanding from the Senator.....
Its too bad he hasn't put as much time and energy into fixing the social securty system. Your tax dollars at work as usual.

when the integrity of the league that makes the most money in professional sports is at stake...it deserves attention from the only people who can do something about it...what? you honestly think goodell would police himself? he is the king, the czar, the god of the nfl, he does whatever he wants whenever he wants...and arlen spector is saying...if you allow cheaters(which would cheat millions and millions of dollars from fans) then you, yourself are a cheater and we will call you on it

finswin56 · 03-09-2008, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattM

Can I just link and highlight what I want to highlight then? I'll go back and fix my original post.

Yes, you can edit the quoted portion of your original post, but only up to 2-3 paragraphs depending on the length of the article.

Lobofin39 · 03-09-2008, 04:06 PM

Perhaps the absolute best thing to come out of all of this:

The crying and whining and finger pointing by ALL the Patriots fans. They have been thoroughly exposed, and the end of it isnt even in sight yet.
They can troll all the other sites they want, and deflect and whimper and whine, but bottom line. They cheated, they were caught, the commisioner tried to let them off easy (The real story will break when we find out why) and they (Patriots and Goodell) are going to end up paying in the end.

So much for a dynasty, so much for the golden chosen children, and in my book, couldnt have happened to a more deserving/arrogant fanbase.

satz · 03-09-2008, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR NFLFAN

There was no federal or civil law broken so why does he think he's entitled to view anything? Just more of the same old Grandstanding from the Senator.....
Its too bad he hasn't put as much time and energy into fixing the social securty system. Your tax dollars at work as usual.

Actually, you are wrong .In the state of mass taping a person without hir or her knowledge is a major crime .If this guy has a tape which leads to his conviction under this law he is looking at 10 yrs.

Roman529 · 03-09-2008, 06:37 PM

So when is Walsh gonna tell us what he knew, and when he knew it. Spill the beans already so Belichick can get a year or two vacation from the NFL.

MattM · 03-09-2008, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBradyWoot

Buffalo's going to the super bowl!!!

When and if we do, it won't be through cheating--can your team state the same?

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MR NFLFAN Pro Bowler Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 8 Thanked 50 Times in 34 Posts	There was no federal or civil law broken so why does he think he's entitled to view anything? Just more of the same old Grandstanding from the Senator..... Its too bad he hasn't put as much time and energy into fixing the social securty system. Your tax dollars at work as usual.

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Lobofin39 Time for a check up from the neck up Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Directly in the middle of nowhere Age: 13 Posts: 7,193 Thanks: 947 Thanked 325 Times in 230 Posts	Perhaps the absolute best thing to come out of all of this: The crying and whining and finger pointing by ALL the Patriots fans. They have been thoroughly exposed, and the end of it isnt even in sight yet. They can troll all the other sites they want, and deflect and whimper and whine, but bottom line. They cheated, they were caught, the commisioner tried to let them off easy (The real story will break when we find out why) and they (Patriots and Goodell) are going to end up paying in the end. So much for a dynasty, so much for the golden chosen children, and in my book, couldnt have happened to a more deserving/arrogant fanbase.