Peter King's Monday Morning Quarterback

[ch19079]

The final score was one sided, but it was close untill that fake FG TD, and then the fumble on the kick off.

Both teams started very slow in the 1st quarter. Edwards passes were high and incomplete. Hasselback's passes were dropped all day. If they had any kind of WR that could catch, the game would have been much closer.

Acutally, Im a little nervious about our secondary. Everyone and their deaf grandmother knew that the seahawlks only had 1 WR that was worth anything. And he still managed to get lined up on our worst CBs and catch passes (in between his drops). greer always seems to be there, but always seems to fall down with his hand in the air, rather than try to knock down a pass. Youbooty actually contained the corner on run plays.... maybe he is not worthless.

I dont know how I could have underestimated Stroud, but man, his presence was diffrence maker. He made the rest of our D-Line guys look very good.

With the likes of Turner getting 200+ yards, Im just waiting for the game Lynch does the same.

[feelthepain]

Originally Posted by Brassmonki14120

So you're saying that the Seahawks are a weak team in an even weaker division.

The Cards are in their division.

If a weak team team from a weak division beats the fish next week will it mean that the fish are one of the weakest teams in the league or can I look forward to hearing you give the "any given Sunday" speech?

I don't give a hoot where the teams rank week 2 of the season it's a long ways from week 2 to week 16. As for the Cards,

07- 8-8
06- 5-11
05- 5-11
04- 4-12
03- 4-12
02- 5-11
01- 7-9
00- 3-13

As you can see the Cards have been awful, last year was their best since 00. Now maybe this year they win the division, who knows, but the last 7 season they've been awful. You think the Rams or 49ers have been much better the last 3-4 seasons? The AFC west was pretty much a one team race for the playoffs....someone had to win it.

[djfresh47]

Originally Posted by feelthepain

First of all it's none of your business how I come to a conclusion, secondly JJ was not a starter he rushed for just 588 yards in 07. He also not even the starter in Seattle, Morris is. Marion Barber was a starter. As for who the Bills beat in game one, do you know what the Sehawks 08 season will be? Did they not have nearly every starting WR out? Did they not lose Buerlson in the middle of the 3rd for the rest of the year? How many dropped balls did the Seahawks have that had nothing to do with the Bills? You make it seem as though the Seahawks were 100% healthy and the Bills just walked all over them. Ya know what I'm starting to think? I think you're really a Bills fan cause you give that team far more credit then they EARN, and I can't remember seeing you post anywhere but in the beast of the east.

Generally I post in the Other Sports forum. Marion Barber started I believe the playoff game but Jones was the starter during the regular season. Do I think he's any good? No, but he still was the starter regardless til the playoffs. I simply give credit where it's due. Every team has injuries nobody cried when Ronnie Brown went out last year nobody will cry for the Pats losing Brady.

Beating any team 34-10 is impressive. If Miami beats Seattle 34-10 on 11/2 i'll be impressed.

[emeraldfin]

Originally Posted by djfresh47

Beating any team 34-10 is impressive. If Miami beats Seattle 34-10 on 11/2 i'll be impressed.

Good point dude, was thinking that myself. But Feelthepain would seemingly rather die than praise the Bills .

But yeah credit where credit is due. That was a very good performance by Edwards and co against a team with a solid defense with the likes of Kearney, Tatupu, Babineaux, Trufant, Bernard and Tapp. But in fairness the Hawks are alot better at Qwest

[feelthepain]

Originally Posted by djfresh47

Generally I post in the Other Sports forum. Marion Barber started I believe the playoff game but Jones was the starter during the regular season. Do I think he's any good? No, but he still was the starter regardless til the playoffs. I simply give credit where it's due. Every team has injuries nobody cried when Ronnie Brown went out last year nobody will cry for the Pats losing Brady.

Beating any team 34-10 is impressive. If Miami beats Seattle 34-10 on 11/2 i'll be impressed.

I don't recall seeing you post anywhere but the beasts of the east on this site. I don't care how they lable your position, it's by production that matters and Barber was by far the more talented player, just calling someone a starter is hardly proof they are. Nobody cries about injuries? The Bill fans do, every chance they get telling everyone how much better they woiuld have been without ALLLLLLL, their injuries last year...yeah right.

But Miami also had a lot of injuries, and we were missing a ton opf starters like Ricky, Ronnie, Chris, Trent, Zach and none of them played in either game against the Bills last year. Do you hear Bill fans saying, "well Miami did have a lot of talent out when we played them in 07"?? Nope!!!! But you can bet they don't waste any time telling the world how they lost all that "TALENT" in 07.

What talent?? Who?? Not one probowler or all pro. I see you're so willing to bend over backwards to give the Bills credit, yet I never hear you say a negative word about a Bills team that lost more then they won for the last three years or back to back 31st defensive rankings and back to back 30th offensive rankings or a HC with a losing record or a Bills offense that scored less points then the awful 1-15 Dolphins or a Bills team that has just 2 wins against teams with winning records over the last 2 seasons.

But you'll tell everyone here how we should give them credit for all that and give them credit for beating one of the most injured teams in the NFL week 1. It seems to me..."if" you're really a Dolphin fan, you're going way, way, way out of your way to give credit to a Bills team that has yet to prove anything. At least me "NOT" giving the Bills credit is consistent with their unimpressive wins, their statistics and their overall record the last 2 years.

[Brassmonki14120]

Originally Posted by feelthepain

I don't recall seeing you post anywhere but the beasts of the east on this site. I don't care how they lable your position, it's by production that matters and Barber was by far the more talented player, just calling someone a starter is hardly proof they are. Nobody cries about injuries? The Bill fans do, every chance they get telling everyone how much better they woiuld have been without ALLLLLLL, their injuries last year...yeah right.

But Miami also had a lot of injuries, and we were missing a ton opf starters like Ricky, Ronnie, Chris, Trent, Zach and none of them played in either game against the Bills last year. Do you hear Bill fans saying, "well Miami did have a lot of talent out when we played them in 07"?? Nope!!!! But you can bet they don't waste any time telling the world how they lost all that "TALENT" in 07.

What talent?? Who?? Not one probowler or all pro. I see you're so willing to bend over backwards to give the Bills credit, yet I never hear you say a negative word about a Bills team that lost more then they won for the last three years or back to back 31st defensive rankings and back to back 30th offensive rankings or a HC with a losing record or a Bills offense that scored less points then the awful 1-15 Dolphins or a Bills team that has just 2 wins against teams with winning records over the last 2 seasons.

But you'll tell everyone here how we should give them credit for all that and give them credit for beating one of the most injured teams in the NFL week 1. It seems to me..."if" you're really a Dolphin fan, you're going way, way, way out of your way to give credit to a Bills team that has yet to prove anything. At least me "NOT" giving the Bills credit is consistent with their unimpressive wins, their statistics and their overall record the last 2 years.

I think someone needs a time out.

[djfresh47]

Originally Posted by feelthepain

I don't recall seeing you post anywhere but the beasts of the east on this site. I don't care how they lable your position, it's by production that matters and Barber was by far the more talented player, just calling someone a starter is hardly proof they are. Nobody cries about injuries? The Bill fans do, every chance they get telling everyone how much better they woiuld have been without ALLLLLLL, their injuries last year...yeah right.

But Miami also had a lot of injuries, and we were missing a ton opf starters like Ricky, Ronnie, Chris, Trent, Zach and none of them played in either game against the Bills last year. Do you hear Bill fans saying, "well Miami did have a lot of talent out when we played them in 07"?? Nope!!!! But you can bet they don't waste any time telling the world how they lost all that "TALENT" in 07.

What talent?? Who?? Not one probowler or all pro. I see you're so willing to bend over backwards to give the Bills credit, yet I never hear you say a negative word about a Bills team that lost more then they won for the last three years or back to back 31st defensive rankings and back to back 30th offensive rankings or a HC with a losing record or a Bills offense that scored less points then the awful 1-15 Dolphins or a Bills team that has just 2 wins against teams with winning records over the last 2 seasons.

But you'll tell everyone here how we should give them credit for all that and give them credit for beating one of the most injured teams in the NFL week 1. It seems to me..."if" you're really a Dolphin fan, you're going way, way, way out of your way to give credit to a Bills team that has yet to prove anything. At least me "NOT" giving the Bills credit is consistent with their unimpressive wins, their statistics and their overall record the last 2 years.

Bending over backwards or watching the game and stating my opinion. You've brought up the stats really everytime with the Bills but I still go by record, like i've stated numerous times.

I've stated that I don't believe Jauron's a good coach, i'm not a fan of Edwards arm strength. The Bills don't have one quality player but if Jake Long ends up being the caliber player of Jason Peters i'll be happy.

To you credit you've been consistent with your opinion. I don't post in the main forum because I don't need threads every day on Ricky vs Ronnie or John Beck. I'm not going to be a hypocrite either and state that Pennington is the savior and a great qb when last year I thought he was the least talented Qb in the NFL.

[feelthepain]

Originally Posted by djfresh47

Bending over backwards or watching the game and stating my opinion. You've brought up the stats really everytime with the Bills but I still go by record, like i've stated numerous times.

I've stated that I don't believe Jauron's a good coach, i'm not a fan of Edwards arm strength. The Bills don't have one quality player but if Jake Long ends up being the caliber player of Jason Peters i'll be happy.

To you credit you've been consistent with your opinion. I don't post in the main forum because I don't need threads every day on Ricky vs Ronnie or John Beck. I'm not going to be a hypocrite either and state that Pennington is the savior and a great qb when last year I thought he was the least talented Qb in the NFL.

Yeah and Bill fans do the same thing...hmmmmm?

[directFX]

The BILLS don't have one quality player? Or Probowler?

You're right...they had 2 Probowlers....

Aaron Schobel and Jason Peters


And as far as quality players go....

Evans, Lynch, Walker, Stroud, Whitner, Parrish, Mitchell, McGee, Dockery??


What are they?.....with the exception of RB....name a dolphins player at those positions that are better than the ones listed.....

[feelthepain]

Originally Posted by directFX

The BILLS don't have one quality player? Or Probowler?

You're right...they had 2 Probowlers....

Aaron Schobel and Jason Peters


And as far as quality players go....

Evans, Lynch, Walker, Stroud, Whitner, Parrish, Mitchell, McGee, Dockery??


What are they?.....with the exception of RB....name a dolphins player at those positions that are better than the ones listed.....

Go back and read what I wrote. I clear said, "The BILLS didn't have one Probowler or all pro
that was lost to injury in 07".

[directFX]

Originally Posted by feelthepain

Go back and read what I wrote. I clear said, "The BILLS didn't have one Probowler or all pro
that was lost to injury in 07".

Last year, no.

Yesterday? Oh yeah...our best young player was on the bench.




And I am going to go out on a limb and predict the BILLS have 5 Probowlers this year....

Stroud
Schobel
Peters
Lynch
Parrish

[feelthepain]

Originally Posted by directFX

Last year, no.

Yesterday? Oh yeah...our best young player was on the bench.




And I am going to go out on a limb and predict the BILLS have 5 Probowlers this year....

Stroud
Schobel
Peters
Lynch
Parrish

That's nice, I'm glad a Bill fan thinks his team is loaded with probowlers. It's not like Bill fans don't think the same thing every year.

[DaBills4life]

Originally Posted by feelthepain

Go back and read what I wrote. I clear said, "The BILLS didn't have one Probowler or all pro
that was lost to injury in 07".

Jason Peters actually did get hurt. I know you like FACTS so much.

[John from Hemet]

Originally Posted by feelthepain

That's nice, I'm glad a Bill fan thinks his team is loaded with probowlers. It's not like Bill fans don't think the same thing every year.

Are you the poster who actually thought Miami was going to be better then the Bills this year?

[feelthepain]

Originally Posted by DaBi