The Milloy situation -or- why this might not play out well for the Bills - Page 2

ohall · 09-03-2003, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by justafan

Sure anyone the bills hire is overpaid and a has been. Anyone the fins hired is just about to peak.

Talk about overpaid. Let's see how the miami weather treats this 34 yr. old player who's just about to peak.

Sorry I never said any of that. Plus Seau has nothing to do with Milloy. Try making a point without dragging everything into everything.

My opinion is Milloy is over paid, and has been on a serious decline since 1999. If you disagree why not tell me why? Seau has nothing to do with this.

Oliver...

Agua · 09-03-2003, 08:33 PM

He'll be a good player for Buff. That's a nice pick up for them. They'll still get smashed by us though.

Justasportsfan · 09-03-2003, 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by Oliver

Sorry I never said any of that. Plus Seau has nothing to do with Milloy. Try making a point without dragging everything into everything.

My opinion is Milloy is over paid, and has been on a serious decline since 1999. If you disagree why not tell me why? Seau has nothing to do with this.

Oliver...

He had a bad year compared to his prior year. This just might bring him back from the dead. He chose the bills over the money Snyder paid him. One reason, to face the Pats. He's only 29. Not 34.

He got paid what he would've made in NE. We had the cap , they didn't. If the Pats cap wasn't so tight, they wouldn't have let him go. We still are projected at 8-10 miilion under the cap next year. Might as well use the 5.9 million this year rather than let it sit doing nothing.

billsouth · 09-03-2003, 08:41 PM

hey justafan how do i get that bills flag?

as to milloy, who gives a $hit whether they paid $200 over invoice or $50 under invoice, the fact remains that our secondary went from a chevrolet to cadillac both in talent and in depth. for any other afc east team (Especially NE) this must be of some concern.

remember, defenses are like sharks ... they prey off of each other. this reminds me a lot like when the bills acquired the biscuit in the 80s.

DolphinDevil28 · 09-03-2003, 08:43 PM

If defenses are like sharks, ours is the friggin coral reef. No one better come swimmin in the water of the Fin's D!

ohall · 09-03-2003, 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by justafan

He had a bad year compared to his prior year. This just might bring him back from the dead. He chose the bills over the money Snyder paid him. One reason, to face the Pats. He's only 29. Not 34.

He got paid what he would've made in NE. We had the cap , they didn't. If the Pats cap wasn't so tight, they wouldn't have let him go. We still are projected at 8-10 miilion under the cap next year. Might as well use the 5.9 million this year rather than let it sit doing nothing.

I see what you're saying, but he hasn't had more than 2 INT's since 1999. He has had down seasons since 1999.

I guess we'll just see how this all plays out.

Oliver...

billsouth · 09-03-2003, 08:46 PM

you guys are like coral reefs and you never see dolphins near coral reefs. :rocker:

CirclingWagons · 09-03-2003, 08:47 PM

Projected Starting D:
DL= Schobel, Williams, Adams, Denney
LB=Fletcher, Spikes, Posey
Secondary=Clements, Winfield, Milloy, Wire
only weak spot is Denney

DolphinDevil28 · 09-03-2003, 08:52 PM

We have no weak spot on D.

beach2nd · 09-03-2003, 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by CirclingWagons
Projected Starting D:
DL= Schobel, Williams, Adams, Denney
LB=Fletcher, Spikes, Posey
Secondary=Clements, Winfield, Milloy, Wire
only weak spot is Denney

Big thing that sticks out about this D is that there is absolutely no pass rush. 2 big run stuffers in the middle, 2 below average DE, and 1 LB (Posey) who was never a good pass rusher until last year when he played in a 3-4. The other 2 LB's are good run stoppers but leave a little to be desired as pass rushers...and the secondary, well if you're counting on your secondary to provide a pass rush then God help you...

infiltrateib · 09-03-2003, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by CirclingWagons
Projected Starting D:
DL= Schobel, Williams, Adams, Denney
LB=Fletcher, Spikes, Posey
Secondary=Clements, Winfield, Milloy, Wire
only weak spot is Denney

Wow. Denney is your only weak spot.

Buffalo was 27th in points allowed.

Buffalo was 29th vs. the run last year. Apparently, your team is at least 20 spots better without having played a down this year.

And don't give me that Adams garbage. Sam Adams is a tiring underachiever who will help very little.

Spikes is a hell of a LB, I will admit that. But Milloy's stats are fading, and Clements/Winfield are not elite CBs. You have plenty more weak spots than just Denney.

Justasportsfan · 09-03-2003, 08:54 PM

Billsouth, click on your profile and then chose an avatar.

Dolfan984 · 09-03-2003, 08:58 PM

Our Projected starting D

DL: Taylor, Bowens, Chester, Ogunleye
LB : Seau, Thomas, Greenwood
DB: Madison, Surtain, Knight, Marion

Our main gripe is about a player who doesn't get a lot of turnovers...sounds like the Bills last year with the exception of Ray Lucas.

Justasportsfan · 09-03-2003, 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by infiltrateib

Clements/Winfield are not elite CBs.

We'll surely see about that soon. When your DL sucks , your cb's pay the Price. When there is no pass rush, they suffer. We either sacked or pressured your qb's last year. Not all those sacks and hits that Lucas took were his fault. (Go check out the videos at BZ)Let's see you guys pick up our blitzing lb's, if Sam does indeed plug up the middle.

ohall · 09-03-2003, 09:00 PM

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Originally posted by Dolfan984
Our Projected starting D

DL: Taylor, Bowens, Chester, Ogunleye
LB : Seau, Thomas, Greenwood
DB: Madison, Surtain, Knight, Marion

Our main gripe is about a player who doesn't get a lot of turnovers...sounds like the Bills last year with the exception of Ray Lucas.

They don't like it when Dolphin fans tell them the truth about Lucas and the Bills.

Oliver...

09-03-2003, 08:41 PM	#19
billsouth Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	hey justafan how do i get that bills flag? as to milloy, who gives a $hit whether they paid $200 over invoice or $50 under invoice, the fact remains that our secondary went from a chevrolet to cadillac both in talent and in depth. for any other afc east team (Especially NE) this must be of some concern. remember, defenses are like sharks ... they prey off of each other. this reminds me a lot like when the bills acquired the biscuit in the 80s. __________________ How sweet it is to SWEEP the FISH!! Having to watch Jay Fielder at QB is like having to watch my dog take a dump--they both stink!!!

09-03-2003, 08:43 PM	#20
DolphinDevil28 I like boobs. Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 25 Posts: 12,533 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 2	If defenses are like sharks, ours is the friggin coral reef. No one better come swimmin in the water of the Fin's D! __________________ NATIONAL CHAMPIONS

09-03-2003, 08:46 PM	#22
billsouth Rookie Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	you guys are like coral reefs and you never see dolphins near coral reefs. :rocker: __________________ How sweet it is to SWEEP the FISH!! Having to watch Jay Fielder at QB is like having to watch my dog take a dump--they both stink!!!

09-03-2003, 08:52 PM	#24
DolphinDevil28 I like boobs. Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 25 Posts: 12,533 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 2	We have no weak spot on D. __________________ NATIONAL CHAMPIONS

09-03-2003, 08:58 PM	#28
Dolfan984 Chad Pennington fan Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bay Area, California Age: 24 Posts: 9,677 Thanks: 2 Thanked 70 Times in 34 Posts FH Badges Total Awards: 1	Our Projected starting D DL: Taylor, Bowens, Chester, Ogunleye LB : Seau, Thomas, Greenwood DB: Madison, Surtain, Knight, Marion Our main gripe is about a player who doesn't get a lot of turnovers...sounds like the Bills last year with the exception of Ray Lucas. __________________ Zach Thomas, Jason Taylor, Sam Madison, Patrick Surtain, Brock Marion, Tim Bowens, Larry Chester, Chris Chambers, Orande Gadsden, Randy McMichael, Jay Fielder for life

09-03-2003, 08:33 PM	#17
Agua Fighting the media, one lie at a time Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ocean Springs, Mississippi Age: 45 Posts: 6,034 Thanks: 19 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	He'll be a good player for Buff. That's a nice pick up for them. They'll still get smashed by us though.

09-03-2003, 08:47 PM	#23
CirclingWagons Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Alexandria, LA Age: 25 Posts: 9,278 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 3 Posts	Projected Starting D: DL= Schobel, Williams, Adams, Denney LB=Fletcher, Spikes, Posey Secondary=Clements, Winfield, Milloy, Wire only weak spot is Denney

09-03-2003, 08:54 PM	#27
Justasportsfan FinHeaven Elite Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15,530 Thanks: 9 Thanked 47 Times in 25 Posts	Billsouth, click on your profile and then chose an avatar.

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