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Old 07-16-2008, 10:53 PM   #31
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Either way, playing overseas or in college the kid will actually learn how to play the game of Basketball. Something he wont in the NBA.

The one thing that I wonder about is whether coaches would rather have a high school guy on the bench practicing every day with pro's in the NBA or playing against lesser competition in the college game.
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Old 07-17-2008, 02:27 AM   #32
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You couldn't be more wrong. Nobody has a god given right to "play" in the NFL. The NFL can get away with a draft and other things becuase there are other football leagues out there where players are more than able to go ply their craft.

The country club comparison is dead on!

The country club comparism is not dead on. Just because there are other leagues makes no differance. The NFL is subject to antitrust laws. You can file against the NFL for unfair business practices, the problem is that the NFL has friends in high places. Clarett actually won his case in federal court but it was overturned by a higher court and the supreme court agreed with the overturning. The problem with any of this for any body challenging the rules of the NFL is lack of support. Actually collective bargaining has never addressed this idiotic and unneccessary class limit although Im sure the NFLPA loves the rule because younger guys would take thier jobs in some cases. The NFL like I said has many powerful political allies. THier case is based around players not being physically ready but the big flaw in that is that not all people develop the same. I have no doubt that Hershal Walker could have played in the NFL after his freshman year. Its a real stupid rule because teams are not going to draft players out of high school very high and players coming out after sophmore years would do nothing to dmage the NFL. The funny thing is that the NBA rule has actually made things worse for colleges and now with Jennings going overseas pandora's box has been opened. The NFL does not have to worry about such things because all other football leagues are basically minor level.
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Old 07-17-2008, 02:32 AM   #33
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The one thing that I wonder about is whether coaches would rather have a high school guy on the bench practicing every day with pro's in the NBA or playing against lesser competition in the college game.
The coaches would probably rather have them in college because guys coming out of high school makes you job much more challenging. Its a pure greed thing for the NBA they want thier minor league system(college) there while they have more time to evaluate players. It should be a clear 18 rule but of course fairness and what should be legal has nothing to do with anything, thats why the drinking age is 21. Yea you are required to enter the selective service in case there is a draft but you are not mature enough to drink lol. Old enough to die, not old enough to drink.
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The one thing that I wonder about is whether coaches would rather have a high school guy on the bench practicing every day with pro's in the NBA or playing against lesser competition in the college game.
Any coach who is at the pro level thinks he can do a better job than his college counterpart. They would of never made it there if they didn't. But it doesn't mean they're right. Jennings will come out of Italy far better for the experience.
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The coaches would probably rather have them in college because guys coming out of high school makes you job much more challenging. Its a pure greed thing for the NBA they want thier minor league system(college) there while they have more time to evaluate players. It should be a clear 18 rule but of course fairness and what should be legal has nothing to do with anything, thats why the drinking age is 21. Yea you are required to enter the selective service in case there is a draft but you are not mature enough to drink lol. Old enough to die, not old enough to drink.
actually, it has nothing to do with protecting the colleges. Stern and the NBA owners could care less, they just don't want to be wasting money on players that supposedly have a lot of potential, but never live up to it. Every year when NBA teams draft college players in the 2nd round, they try to convince them to go over to Europe for a year or two to develop, play minutes, and play in hostile environments. Most Americans have no desire to do that (Demetrius Nichols comes to mind) That is why you see teams constantly spend 2nd round picks on Euros.

If this really becomes an issue that Stern is concerned about, he should make a minor league similar to baseball or the AHL to the NHL. The NBDL is a sham and does a horrible job developing players for the most part (their best players become 12 men in the NBA)

And as I try to reiterate, I am hoping Jennings does well, BUT it won't be as easy a transition as many seem to think
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Old 07-17-2008, 07:54 PM   #36
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See I think the coaches would rather have the guy being a 12th man on the bench. Though the scouts and gm's would rather have an additional year to scout. Guys have it held against them if they're older entering the draft for a reason.
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