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Old 08-19-2008, 09:17 AM   #31
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I like Beck and think we should keep him to develop, many others don't agree and thats OK, but this is a silly argument. Henne went downfield to Ginn and they nearly connected on a 43 yard gain. By the way it was a beautiful pass thrown over the outside shoulder, if Ginn can catch it cleanly, huge play. He did a great job of going through his progressions and taking what the defense gave him. I would have liked a TD or two but he did a great job.

Henne is clearly the teams future.
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:25 AM   #32
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Against the Jags Chad Henne had a 5.1 ypa which is lower then Beck in both the preseason and regular season last year. We should deal the bum for anything we can get. I mean come on you all wanna deal Beck and Henne likes the short passes more. Never mind the fact that taking the underneath stuff and converting first downs is better than going &^$% it i'm going deap and throwing into coverage. It's not like every 10 yards you get a fresh set of downs or something and any three plays that average over 3.3 yards will get you there or something. God scrubs like that make me sick.
We should cut/trade Jake Long also and start Indukwe.

No seriously you need to shut your computer down, walk over to the balcony of your home, and Jump off.
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:46 AM   #33
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if you watched the game you would see that he did go downfield to Wilford, Ginn and Armstrong.

two yards to the left and his throw to Ginn would have been perfect.


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Neither Henne nor Beck are ready to start in 2008.

Neither Henne nor Beck will start in 2008.

Lets save these arguments for when one or both have the chance to start for this franchise. Lets focus now on Pennington and the rest of the team instead of wasting energy on this topic. By the time we need one of out young guys to start, we may have a much clearer picture of who is ready.
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Old 08-19-2008, 09:58 AM   #35
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Neither Henne nor Beck are ready to start in 2008.

Neither Henne nor Beck will start in 2008.

Lets save these arguments for when one or both have the chance to start for this franchise. Lets focus now on Pennington and the rest of the team instead of wasting energy on this topic. By the time we need one of out young guys to start, we may have a much clearer picture of who is ready.
i didn't know chad pennington had brett favre like durability. henne may well get some run in games that count this year.
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:01 AM   #36
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Anyone get sarcasim I just think its stupid when despite being a second round pick and on the Dolphins and from college deffenatilly showing potential so many fans want to deal him for a sixth or seventh pick last i checked 2nd round pick > 6th round pick in most cases plus the ypa doesn't matter provided you can get over 3.3 yards per play and you dont turn the ball over too much you will move the ball down the field tire down the defence and score points. It doesn't matter how you do it. Plus keeping Beck worst case senario he sucks and we get nothing out of him and still a have Henne. best case senario he becomes a good QB. If you get rid of him its automatically we get nothing worth while after him at this point Beck is low risk high reward so we should keep him and Henne because if one goes down we have a back up plan and if we end up with 2 good QBs isn't that a very good problem? Plus if we cut McClown and Pennington goes down we get to see what Beck can do over a journy man and provided we win at least 1 game next year whats the problem with the first pick especially if they add that rookie salairy cap they have been talking about.
I see your point. We spend a 2nd rounder and now, a year later, people are talking about getting a 6th or 7th for him. The thing is, we really don't have that much opportunity to showcase Beck and how much he has improved (seeing that he has actually improved). We might be able to see more of him in the 4th preseason game against the Saints. With the way Beck was introduced into the league and the perception that has been made of him, I seriously doubt we could get anything more for him. We could keep him, but getting something for him in return would be best, IMO.
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i didn't know chad pennington had brett favre like durability. henne may well get some run in games that count this year.
Honestly, if Henne plays any significant games this year its because things arent going well, unless ofcourse we are 8-4 and Penny goes down, then we still arent doing well. So as much as i like the rookie lets hope he doesnt play, unless we are just giving him mop up duty to get experience.
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Honestly, if Henne plays any significant games this year its because things arent going well, unless ofcourse we are 8-4 and Penny goes down, then we still arent doing well. So as much as i like the rookie lets hope he doesnt play, unless we are just giving him mop up duty to get experience.
I agree completely!
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Old 08-19-2008, 10:29 AM   #39
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Just because you bought a Beck jersey or have his card from some Upper Deck card set doesn't mean you can't like him in free agency.



Stop being so bitter, I don't see the point. Did you even watch the game? Hell, I remember a game where Brady beat a defense by only throwing checkdowns to Welker.
Why is this about Beck?
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:22 PM   #41
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do my eyes deceive me?????

Could it be?????

yup...... another %$&*ing Beck/Henne thread!!!!!
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Old 08-19-2008, 02:24 PM   #42
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Against the Jags Chad Henne had a 5.1 ypa which is lower then Beck in both the preseason and regular season last year. We should deal the bum for anything we can get. I mean come on you all wanna deal Beck and Henne likes the short passes more. Never mind the fact that taking the underneath stuff and converting first downs is better than going &^$% it i'm going deap and throwing into coverage. It's not like every 10 yards you get a fresh set of downs or something and any three plays that average over 3.3 yards will get you there or something. God scrubs like that make me sick.
eh, u must have missed the 22 and 17 yarders to Ginn..
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eh, u must have missed the 22 and 17 yarders to Ginn..
and that beauty of a deep ball that Ginn didnt get his feet in on, and the beauty he lofted to Hagan that came back on a Bess penalty. other than that, the OP is bang on.
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and that beauty of a deep ball that Ginn didnt get his feet in on, and the beauty he lofted to Hagan that came back on a Bess penalty. other than that, the OP is bang on.
yeah, that and MinnPhin's quote
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Old 08-19-2008, 03:01 PM   #45
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why u tellin him to go away...he makes a good point
makes a good point how? by calling a promising rookie quarterback a bum? The only point made is how harsh some fans can be....why don't we run the guy out of town right now with pitchforks and burning brooms!
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