Xbox 360 is id Software's Primary Target Platform? Maybe.

[mor911]

I thought this was interesting... Mostly because they've all but jumped ship without really waiting on the PS3. I'm sure things change once the PS3 actually launches. The guy makes some good points though.

We’re doing simultaneous development on Xbox 360 and PC, and we intend to release on PlayStation 3 simultaneously as well, but it’s not a mature enough platform right now for us to be doing much work on.

The difference between theoretical performance and real-world performance on the CPU level is growing fast. On, say, a regular Xbox, you can get very large fractions of theoretical performance with not a whole lot of effort. The PlayStation 2 was always a mess with the multiple processors on there, but the new generations, with Cell or the Xbox 360, make it much, much worse. They can quote these incredibly high numbers of giga-flops or tera-flops or whatever, but in reality, when you do a straightforward development process on them, they’re significantly slower than a modern high-end PC.

...The graphics systems are much better than that, though. Graphics have an inherent natural parallelism. The capabilities of the Xbox 360 and PS3 are really good on the graphics side � although, not head or shoulders above any PC stuff that you can buy at a higher price-point.

The Xbox 360 will probably will be id's primary development platform. As it is right now, we would get the game up on the 360. When I would do major hack-and-slash architectural changes it was back on the PC, but it’s looking like the Xbox 360 will be our target.

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I'll be buying the magazine to read the full interview, good stuff.


EDIT -- I also thought this was funny because I (nor any gamer I know) consider id soft to be a "big-name" developer. I would care less if id was (or was not) making games for my system. Granted, the more games, the better.

[0000001]

I think the ps3 will end up blowing out the 360 by next year. time to invest in sony.

[mor911]

I think the ps3 will end up blowing out the 360 by next year. time to invest in sony.

I don't think either of them are gonna blow anyone away. I think it'll be a much closer race than PS2 vs Xbox was. From what I'm gathering, I don't think Sony has a strong enough launch lineup to just jump right into first place... All of their heavy hitters are a year or more out. Microsoft is in a position where second gen 360 games will be launching at Sony's initial launch... In the end, Sony's launch games and the system's price will determine it... In my opinion of course.
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[Marino2Clayton]

Another thing that worries me about the PS3 is its price point. As of now it looks as though its going to cost considerably more than the 360.

Disclaimer: Take everything I say with a grain of salt because I am in love with my 360.

[Motion]

Another thing that worries me about the PS3 is its price point. As of now it looks as though its going to cost considerably more than the 360.

Disclaimer: Take everything I say with a grain of salt because I am in love with my 360.

Based on??????

[AquaInferno]

I thought this was interesting... Mostly because they've all but jumped ship without really waiting on the PS3. I'm sure things change once the PS3 actually launches. The guy makes some good points though.
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I'll be buying the magazine to read the full interview, good stuff.


EDIT -- I also thought this was funny because I (nor any gamer I know) consider id soft to be a "big-name" developer. I would care less if id was (or was not) making games for my system. Granted, the more games, the better.

Id's been M$ friendly, Doom 3 wasn't even considered for PS2 and we sure coulda used a damn good FPS on PS2. FYI Mor, I consider ID a major developer, for the PC. They make the best FPS games on PC, console that's a different story, only thanks to Halo. ID started the FPS ****, and I think they will be the company to take down Halo, if they come out with a console only game. (Hopefully a PS3 only title to put Sony on the map for FPS) I've loved ID since Wolfenstien 3D.

[mor911]

Id's been M$ friendly, Doom 3 wasn't even considered for PS2 and we sure coulda used a damn good FPS on PS2. FYI Mor, I consider ID a major developer, for the PC. They make the best FPS games on PC, console that's a different story, only thanks to Halo. ID started the FPS ****, and I think they will be the company to take down Halo, if they come out with a console only game. (Hopefully a PS3 only title to put Sony on the map for FPS) I've loved ID since Wolfenstien 3D.

I think the reason for them not going to PS2 for Doom3 was mostly processing powert reasons. Same reason for Halflife2. Both of those games run like crap on Xbox IMO. It would have been just pathetic to try and port them to the PS2.

I think ID makes ground breaking FPS games, but they don't get all of the elements to make a Halo or Halflife killer. IDs FPS games tend to be too much run-n-gun and go-find-a-jkey-to-open-the-door gameplay to match up with a game like Halo2 with a strong story line.

[Agua]

As with my complaint regarding consolves vs. PC - This damned X-box is ruining games. MS has never made a profit on X-Box but is determined to put all other platforms out of business.

[mor911]

As with my complaint regarding consolves vs. PC - This damned X-box is ruining games. MS has never made a profit on X-Box but is determined to put all other platforms out of business.

While I don't know the numbers behind Microsoft's sales for the Xbox console, I serious doubt they've lost money with the Xbox. It's ridiculous to think they've never made a profit. Even if they took a loss on the console, software and services (XBL) would have made up for that easy.

I would also like you to go ino more depth on how the "damned X-box is ruining games." That's probably one of the most ignorant things someone could say. Even if you were the most die hard sony or Nintendo fan, competition is always good. Do you think Killzone or Socom would even have been thought of if Halo wasn't so successful? If Xbox Live never got popular, do you think you'd be able to play Madden and every other online PS2 game (with a headset)?

Saying Xbox is ruining gaming is just as dumb as saying the PS2 or the Gamecube is ruining gaming.

[Agua]

While I don't know the numbers behind Microsoft's sales for the Xbox console, I serious doubt they've lost money with the Xbox. It's ridiculous to think they've never made a profit. Even if they took a loss on the console, software and services (XBL) would have made up for that easy.

I would also like you to go ino more depth on how the "damned X-box is ruining games." That's probably one of the most ignorant things someone could say. Even if you were the most die hard sony or Nintendo fan, competition is always good. Do you think Killzone or Socom would even have been thought of if Halo wasn't so successful? If Xbox Live never got popular, do you think you'd be able to play Madden and every other online PS2 game (with a headset)?

Saying Xbox is ruining gaming is just as dumb as saying the PS2 or the Gamecube is ruining gaming.

Well, I suppose National Public Radio business reporters were lying with regard to MS's profits on pre-360 x-boxes.

I've already spoken on the "dumbing down" of PC games due to limited controls of consoles and the diminishing availability of titles in a previous thread of last week or the week immediately preceding that one. I don't see how anyone could argue with that, and I don't need to call you "ignorant" to do so, as you have done.