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Thread: Party on, Halliburton! And get the American public to pay for it!

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    Party on, Halliburton! And get the American public to pay for it!

    Halliburton Fraud Lawsuit Details Super Bowl Party
    By T. Christian Miller
    The Los Angeles Times
    Saturday 09 September 2006


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    Washington - Halliburton Co. executives ordered a big-screen television and 10 large tubs of tacos, chicken wings and cheese sticks delivered to Iraq for last year's Super Bowl, then billed U.S. taxpayers for their party, according to a lawsuit unsealed Friday.

    The Houston-based company also defrauded the government by double- and triple-billing for Internet, food and gym services for soldiers, according to the lawsuit by a former employee for KBR, the Halliburton subsidiary that runs dining halls for troops in Iraq.

    "The administration is not enforcing the laws against fraud when it comes to contractors in Iraq," said Alan Grayson, the attorney who filed the suit. "When it comes to seeing that the law is executed, the Bush administration is a no-show."

    Halliburton denied the allegations, filed under the False Claims Act. Designed to prevent war profiteering, such lawsuits allow citizens to sue on behalf of the government and recover a portion of any damages.

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    Be fair though Press......it's not like they're making any money in Afghanistan or Iraq. They need to pay for their Wendy's.
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    yeah.. but this quote is striking:

    "When it comes to seeing that the law is executed, the Bush administration is a no-show."

    Unless, of course, it's a law they've drawn up to keep the press in check... they certainly show up for that....

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    And I'm sure they'll show up for the 45 zillion dollar contract that they'll miraculously win in Iraq.

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    Originally Posted by PressCoverage
    Halliburton Fraud Lawsuit Details Super Bowl Party
    By T. Christian Miller
    The Los Angeles Times
    Saturday 09 September 2006


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    Washington - Halliburton Co. executives ordered a big-screen television and 10 large tubs of tacos, chicken wings and cheese sticks delivered to Iraq for last year's Super Bowl, then billed U.S. taxpayers for their party, according to a lawsuit unsealed Friday.

    The Houston-based company also defrauded the government by double- and triple-billing for Internet, food and gym services for soldiers, according to the lawsuit by a former employee for KBR, the Halliburton subsidiary that runs dining halls for troops in Iraq.

    "The administration is not enforcing the laws against fraud when it comes to contractors in Iraq," said Alan Grayson, the attorney who filed the suit. "When it comes to seeing that the law is executed, the Bush administration is a no-show."

    Halliburton denied the allegations, filed under the False Claims Act. Designed to prevent war profiteering, such lawsuits allow citizens to sue on behalf of the government and recover a portion of any damages.
    I see Halliburton as defrauding the US Tax Payers, actually "grand theft" and/or corruption. Since the contract is with the US goevernment and the oversight obviously is a failure and no severe punishment is forthcoming, I would consider the administration as co-conspirator to grand theft, corruption and fraud. When everything is said and done the buck stops at the top.

    PS: If I get caught stealing or defrauding a company by 10 to 15k I am looking at several years of jail.
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    Originally Posted by PressCoverage
    Halliburton Fraud Lawsuit Details Super Bowl Party
    By T. Christian Miller
    The Los Angeles Times
    Saturday 09 September 2006


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    Washington - Halliburton Co. executives ordered a big-screen television and 10 large tubs of tacos, chicken wings and cheese sticks delivered to Iraq for last year's Super Bowl, then billed U.S. taxpayers for their party, according to a lawsuit unsealed Friday.

    The Houston-based company also defrauded the government by double- and triple-billing for Internet, food and gym services for soldiers, according to the lawsuit by a former employee for KBR, the Halliburton subsidiary that runs dining halls for troops in Iraq.

    "The administration is not enforcing the laws against fraud when it comes to contractors in Iraq," said Alan Grayson, the attorney who filed the suit. "When it comes to seeing that the law is executed, the Bush administration is a no-show."

    Halliburton denied the allegations, filed under the False Claims Act. Designed to prevent war profiteering, such lawsuits allow citizens to sue on behalf of the government and recover a portion of any damages.
    I'll reserve judgement on the allegations of false billing until the facts are presented...as it should be however...

    Who do you think enjoys the amenities of a big screen TV, tacos and chicken wings for a Super Bowl party in Iraq? Halliburton? KBR? Try the soldiers on the ground themselves.

    I guess since we have a big screen TV in the MWR room here for all of the soldiers to watch television...or to watch the Dolphins play...it's a defrauding of the government. I guess all of these recreational amentities need to be confiscated. I mean...providing something nice for the soldiers to enjoy on their down time...can't have that, can we?

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    Here are the last two paragraphs from the LA Times article:

    Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Los Angeles), who has been the leader in Congress in attacking Halliburton, said that the charges were further proof of war profiteering by the oil services giant.

    "One former Halliburton employee after another tells the same story of outrageous and intentional overcharging," Waxman said in a statement. "Yet no one in the Bush administration seems to care."

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    Originally Posted by A_USA_DS
    I'll reserve judgement on the allegations of false billing until the facts are presented...as it should be however...

    Who do you think enjoys the amenities of a big screen TV, tacos and chicken wings for a Super Bowl party in Iraq? Halliburton? KBR? Try the soldiers on the ground themselves.

    I guess since we have a big screen TV in the MWR room here for all of the soldiers to watch television...or to watch the Dolphins play...it's a defrauding of the government. I guess all of these recreational amentities need to be confiscated. I mean...providing something nice for the soldiers to enjoy on their down time...can't have that, can we?

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    well, that's great, DS.... of course you're going to take that angle...

    but somehow you ignored the part about double and triple billing for those services... i don't think the problem is who's ultimately receiving the entertainment, it's about how it's billed...

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    Originally Posted by PressCoverage
    well, that's great, DS.... of course you're going to take that angle...

    but somehow you ignored the part about double and triple billing for those services... i don't think the problem is who's ultimately receiving the entertainment, it's about how it's billed...
    I ignored it? Did I? You sure about that?

    Did I not say that I'll reserve judgement until the facts are presented? Hmmm, I know my memory isn't what it used to be...but I could've sworn I said that. Base an opinion on facts...and not accusations.:rolleyes2

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    Originally Posted by Awsi Dooger
    "One former Halliburton employee after another tells the same story of outrageous and intentional overcharging," Waxman said in a statement. "Yet no one in the Bush administration seems to care."
    I'm going to offer this: a lot of people stepped forward with complaints about Bill Clinton as well. Some of them were even similar (Paula Jones and the whole weird rape allegation by that Kathleen whateverhername was, as one example). These complaints were dismissed because the people involved (or, in some cases, the people financing the allegations) had an agenda.

    Do you think former Halliburton employees might have an agenda? I'm all for checking into allegations of abuse. I'm not going to run around and suggest that there is a fire, though.

    I'll also offer this to give everyone a little perspective about billing issues: if you go to the hospital, you're going to get a bill that most likely contains a wild-*** guess as to what supplies were used. It's my understanding that insurers will generally dispute charges and get concessions on the bill because of these strange practices of hospitals. It seems to me that a former employee could easily turn this into a charge of intentional overbilling of insurers. That's not really what it is, though. It's the system that the insurers know about and the hospital knows about. It has conceivably been put in place because it would only cost more money to keep track of every Q-tip that gets used. I think it's just possible that we're dealing with something very much like this when it comes to these contracts. Halliburton may be submitting bills to the government with the knowledge of both parties that they're not really accurate and that they'll be using some sort of auditing process to get to the right figure.

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