Ichiro

**KB21** · 03-18-2002, 05:28 PM

Why do you have a pic of that overrated Ichiro?

**dolphan39** · 03-18-2002, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by KB21
Why do you have a pic of that overrated Ichiro?

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how'd Seattle do in the playoff against GOOD teams
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**KB21** · 03-18-2002, 05:31 PM

Giambi was robbed of the MVP!

**iceblizzard69** · 03-18-2002, 09:36 PM

You Yankees fans are fools. Ichiro is the best fielder in the MLB (for an OF), hits .350 and steals tons of bases. If you want to talk about overrated players, talk about Derek Jeter. He hits .310 with no power (if you are gonna hit .310 and be spoken of as great, you gotta have some power), doesn't steal many bases, isn't the best fielder, and had two hits in the World Series. He isn't even that good in the playoffs. What an overrated bastard.

**dolphan39** · 03-18-2002, 09:43 PM

he was 9th in batting had 21 HRs 74 RBIs 110 runs scored and .480 slugging PCT.

oh yeah he cannot steal bases - he stoles 27 but was caught only 3 times :eek:

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**dolfan87** · 03-19-2002, 09:42 AM

oh yea, well the Diamondbacks won it all...so you all can argue about individule stats all you want. My 'Backs won it as a team...even with Kim throwing away two games.
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**iceblizzard69** · 03-19-2002, 10:43 AM

Originally posted by dolphan39
he was 9th in batting had 21 HRs 74 RBIs 110 runs scored and .480 slugging PCT.

oh yeah he cannot steal bases - he stoles 27 but was caught only 3 times :eek:

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WOW! He had 74 RBI!!! What a great power hitter. Ichiro had 69 RBI (or something around that) and hit lead-off the whole damn year.

SS better than Jeter:
A-Rod
Aurilia (.326 with a lot more power)
Garciaparra

and the close SS to Jeter:
Jimmy Rollins (if he got his average up they would be identical except Rollins is better at steals)
Miguel Tejada (better power but not as good at the average part)
Cristian Guzman (better speed and identical power, his average is close)

There are more close SS to Jeter, if you look at Jeter's numbers he really isn't that great and he doesn't deliever in the playoffs like everyone says he does. If Steinbrenner could get A-Rod, he would dump Jeter in a second.

**dolphan39** · 03-19-2002, 11:56 AM

not gonna argue Derek vs A Rod, but you gotta look at consistency. Jeter is the most consistent hitter the Yanks have had since DiMaggio.

Garciaparra - always hurt

the other guys have not done it long enough to compare them.

Jeter led a bit also last year so his RBI #'s were OK

**iceblizzard69** · 03-19-2002, 01:19 PM

Garciaparra had one injury season, and A-Rod has had a lot of good seasons now. However, Jeter and A-Rod have one thing in common, they are both losers.

**dolphan39** · 03-19-2002, 02:04 PM

Originally posted by iceblizzard69
Garciaparra had one injury season, and A-Rod has had a lot of good seasons now. However, Jeter and A-Rod have one thing in common, they are both losers.

maybe we should go back to ME politics
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