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[LouPhinFan]

I will have to find time to read the stuff on there, especially about the guys you mentioned. To me, and this is possibly unfair, Cam Newton just screams JaMarcus Russell Part II at worst and Daunte Culpepper Part II at best. Big guys who over-rely on scrambling and instincts eventually end up hurt, or not being able to translate their abilities to the next level. This is certainly just a qualified opinion because I am just a hardcore football fan, not a professional scout.

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Read the scouting report in the link above, done for the Sun Sentinel by CK and Boomer (from this board). Cam Newton isn't a run first QB. He isn't lazy like Russell and is much more athletic than Culpepper. The most apt comparison for Newton is to Ben Rothlisberger, except he's way more athletic than big Ben.

[spydertl79]

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Read the scouting report in the link above, done for the Sun Sentinel by CK and Boomer (from this board). Cam Newton isn't a run first QB. He isn't lazy like Russell and is much more athletic than Culpepper. The most apt comparison for Newton is to Ben Rothlisberger, except he's way more athletic than big Ben.

Character issues... ok in a CB or WR but not a QB.

[LouPhinFan]

Character issues... ok in a CB or WR but not a QB.

So character issues when you're 19 years old (that haven't resurfaced in several years) should keep you from getting a job 4 or 5 years later?

We elected George W. Bush who had character issues...

[spydertl79]

So character issues when you're 19 years old (that haven't resurfaced in several years) should keep you from getting a job 4 or 5 years later?

We elected George W. Bush who had character issues...

No but it should make a team cautious of wasting a very valuable draft pick on him. He is absolutely worth risking a 3rd round pick on but I wouldn't want to see my team take him in the top 10/15. This is completely different from a "job" though.

In the past 5 years he has stolen someone's laptop, gotten in trouble multiple times for plagiarizing papers, and been linked to a pay-for-play scandal. Sometimes when guys go to the NFL they grow up and stop acting like ****heads but there is no reason to believe that Cam Newton has matured or will mature to the point where he can be a good NFL QB.

[Blitz]

I read the intro and conclusion of the write-up, along with skimming its base. I have watched a few highlight videos, too. My thoughts:

The character issues do not concern me that much, especially the computer stuff from when he was a teenager. What his dad did was not his fault. He probably cheated because he did not have enough time to spare for academics given his commitment to football. The fact he was caught cheating says more to me than the fact he cheated. With that said, he's definitely not in the category of Cecil Collins/Lawrence Phillips by any stretch of the imagination.

I like his size and brute strength. He's definitely one heck of a physical specimen...but so what? Tony Mandarich wins the all-time award in that category. It did not translate to anything in the NFL. It takes more than AAA physical attributes to be a leading player, let alone a leading QB, in the NFL.

What concerns me more than anything is the apparent over-reliance on scrambling, which I inferred from the statistic 264 rushes compared to 280 passing attempts. That is nearly a 1:1 pass/rush ratio. That is obviously NOT going to translate to the pros. Just ask Michael Vick what it feels like being hit by pros like Brian Dawkins while scrambling, and then being expected to pass on your next play. Yeah, he made plays on his feet in college, but so what? It was nice to watch Ronnie Brown run at Auburn, too.

Another thing that concerns me is the fact he was a starter for only one season. Was he successful because of his team, or was the team successful because of him? Is he a one-hit college wonder, a byproduct of his environment, or the real deal? If he was so good, why did he not spell Tebow at Florida, or become used in the backfield as an option for Tebow? What in the hell was he doing at a place called Blinn College in 2009 when he could have presumably replaced Tebow at Florida in 2010, and/or replaced Tebow in 2009 if Tebow ended up getting hurt (That did not happen, but it could have and Newton should have considered that possibility before transferring to a junior college)?

I look at this guy, and I see too much uncertainty for a top fifteen pick. Maybe the hype is right and he's the next big thing. Or maybe he's the next Akili Smith or Daunte Culpepper. I believe that if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

There is no way I would leverage the future for Newton by trading up to secure his services. There is too much risk involved. To me, it would even be a reach to take him at fifteen instead of drafting a more traditional prospect like Mark Ingram, who is probably about as close to a "sure-thing" as you can get.

[Locke]

I read the intro and conclusion of the write-up, along with skimming its base. I have watched a few highlight videos, too. My thoughts:

The character issues do not concern me that much, especially the computer stuff from when he was a teenager. What his dad did was not his fault. He probably cheated because he did not have enough time to spare for academics given his commitment to football. The fact he was caught cheating says more to me than the fact he cheated. With that said, he's definitely not in the category of Cecil Collins/Lawrence Phillips by any stretch of the imagination.

I like his size and brute strength. He's definitely one heck of a physical specimen...but so what? Tony Mandarich wins the all-time award in that category. It did not translate to anything in the NFL. It takes more than AAA physical attributes to be a leading player, let alone a leading QB, in the NFL.

What concerns me more than anything is the apparent over-reliance on scrambling, which I inferred from the statistic 264 rushes compared to 280 passing attempts. That is nearly a 1:1 pass/rush ratio. That is obviously NOT going to translate to the pros. Just ask Michael Vick what it feels like being hit by pros like Brian Dawkins while scrambling, and then being expected to pass on your next play. Yeah, he made plays on his feet in college, but so what? It was nice to watch Ronnie Brown run at Auburn, too.

Another thing that concerns me is the fact he was a starter for only one season. Was he successful because of his team, or was the team successful because of him? Is he a one-hit college wonder, a byproduct of his environment, or the real deal? If he was so good, why did he not spell Tebow at Florida, or become used in the backfield as an option for Tebow? What in the hell was he doing at a place called Blinn College in 2009 when he could have presumably replaced Tebow at Florida in 2010, and/or replaced Tebow in 2009 if Tebow ended up getting hurt (That did not happen, but it could have and Newton should have considered that possibility before transferring to a junior college)?

I look at this guy, and I see too much uncertainty for a top fifteen pick. Maybe the hype is right and he's the next big thing. Or maybe he's the next Akili Smith or Daunte Culpepper. I believe that if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

There is no way I would leverage the future for Newton by trading up to secure his services. There is too much risk involved. To me, it would even be a reach to take him at fifteen instead of drafting a more traditional prospect like Mark Ingram, who is probably about as close to a "sure-thing" as you can get.

You are probably not aware that he was used as a RB quite often. The rushing attempts aren't all him pulling down the ball and scrambling. CK did the stats and found he scrambled approximately the same amount of time that Aaron Rodgers did this year.

I completely agree with you about his starting experience. My personal preference is Gabbert...

[Blitz]

I was not aware of that. Thanks for sharing. That changes my opinion somewhat, but it also begs once again the question of why he was not used at Florida as an option alongside Tebow...

[Locke]

Well, I'm pretty worried the preferred choice at the moment is Locker. I really hope they have him off their board, but he fits the mold of the "Parcells draftable QB". I'm preparing for lots of pain come April...

[spydertl79]

I was not aware of that. Thanks for sharing. That changes my opinion somewhat, but it also begs once again the question of why he was not used at Florida as an option alongside Tebow...

Because he was constantly getting in trouble

[Blitz]

If he was trouble in Gainesville, I bet he cannot wait to get a load of South Beach.