*** OFFICIAL Eli Manning Worship Thread ***

[ChrisHanson]

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he had maybe the best set of WRs in the league, if anyone carried anyone it was Victor Cruz carrying Eli late in the year.

It's very possible Eli was the 5th best QB this past season but he still wasn't on a level w/ Brady, Rodgers & Brees(or a healthy Peyton thouhg I'd rather have Eli as my QB in January than Peyton).



I discuss reality whether for or against teams I like or dislike.



Tom Brady rescued a fading franchise, no QB carries a team to a SB but a good QB can be the difference maker and in regards to NE & Indy the difference has been play at QB IN Jan/Feb.

I hate to spoil you dreams of fellating Brady, but Peyton has played better in Jan/Feb over his career than Brady has in his. FACT!

[PhinzN703]

****, I dont think he can find one.

I don't even think it matters. To be so completely off-base about something 114 million people saw for themselves just shows the ignorance hatred/homerism can do to a person.

[Tunaphish429]

I heard Eli Manning once saved three babies from a burning NYC building. ****ing guy is a hero.

[nyjunc]

That is not true.

If a player goes to the ground out-of-bounds (with or without contact by an
opponent) in the process of making a catch at the sideline, he must maintain complete and continuous
control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, or the pass is incomplete.

The ball can move as long as the receiver is in control of the ball (which he was)

do you have a link? I couldn't find one and I'm pretty positive what you posted is correct.

[nyjunc]

I hate to spoil you dreams of fellating Brady, but Peyton has played better in Jan/Feb over his career than Brady has in his. FACT!

Peyton is not even in the discussion w/ Brady in Jan/Feb. FACT!

I don't even think it matters. To be so completely off-base about something 114 million people saw for themselves just shows the ignorance hatred/homerism can do to a person.

Of course if the majority thinks it's true they must be right!

[PhinzN703]

Of course if the majority thinks it's true they must be right!

So you're of the mindset that if out of 100 people (including you) were polled on if the catch was legit and only you were to say it wasn't, everyone else is wrong b/c they aren't speaking in reality like you.

Right?

[nyjunc]

from the offical NFL rulebook at nfl.com:


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Sideline Catches.�� If a player goes to the ground out-of-bounds (with or without contact by an
opponent) in the process of making a catch at the sideline, he must maintain complete and continuous
control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, or the pass is incomplete.

[NY8123]

The ball did move.



very few fans actually know the rule. Unless it has quietly been changed in recent years the play should have been ruled incomplete, the ball cannot move an inch in that situation and it clearly did.

This is where your argument fails epically.

Rule 8, Section 1, Article 3, Item 1 of the NFL Rule Book (page 51) states that “if a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact with an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball after he touches the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control, the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.”

This ball NEVER touched the ground and was always cradled in his arm. No where in any rule does it say the ball "CAN NOT" move, it merely states it can not touch the ground while moving. If this ball hits the ground in anyway than it isn't a catch but it clearly did not hit the ground once during the catch and tackle out of bounds.

I am truly sorry you are making yourself look like such a fool by arguing an invalid point. Usually your arguments are much more football sound but this one is clearly flawed beyond belief.

[nyjunc]

This is where your argument fails epically.



This ball NEVER touched the ground and was always cradled in his arm. No where in any rule does it say the ball "CAN NOT" move, it merely states it can not touch the ground while moving. If this ball hits the ground in anyway than it isn't a catch but it clearly did not hit the ground once during the catch and tackle out of bounds.

I am truly sorry you are making yourself look like such a fool by arguing an invalid point. Usually your arguments are much more football sound but this one is clearly flawed beyond belief.

It doesn't have to touch the ground:

Sideline Catches.�� If a player goes to the ground out-of-bounds (with or without contact by an
opponent) in the process of making a catch at the sideline, he must maintain complete and continuous
control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, or the pass is incomplete.

where does it mention anything about touching the ground? it says "COMPLETE AND CONTINUOUS CONTROL", the ball bobbling does not indicate complete and continuous control, does it?

My link is DIRECLY from the rule book at NFL.com


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[ChrisHanson]

Peyton is not even in the discussion w/ Brady in Jan/Feb. FACT!



Of course if the majority thinks it's true they must be right!

You're really delusional man. Manning has a great overall post season resume. His teams, however, do not. Where as Brady has a worse overall post season resume while playing on some great teams. Let me guess, you like to cherry pick in order to disregard what refutes your opinions of Brady and Manning, right? Well, you can't look at the very tip of Jessica Alba's pinky toe and declare her beautiful without looking at the rest of her.

The FACTS are, Brady, over his last 13 post season games, has produced SHEET! 8 of those 13 games he failed to reach a 90 QBR with 6 of those 8 being under 80. In 7 of his last 13 games he's thrown as many or more INT's than TD's.

These are all games played AFTER spygate, mind you.
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