Log jam at running back and tight end

[normaniii]

I wouldnt be surprised to see Bush traded or cut. While Philbin seems excited to have him as a checkdown/wideout option, he will be making just under $5 million or so this season. Way to much for a situational player, even one as good as he is. This coaching staff is high on Slaton, Miller was just drafted, and Ireland isnt about to throw away Thomas after a single season. Unless Messam blows away the staff, hes destined to be cut.

As for tight end, those 3 are probably locks, but last years left overs are probably gone. Depending on how Brown does we might throw him on the practice squad(is he eligible for that?).

I would be massively surprised if Bush gets cut or traded. He had over 1000 yards at an avg of 5.0 YPC.....that is outstanding. IMO he is the perfect WC RB. When Sherman had Ahman Green at GB, he avg approx 60 catches a season. I see same for Reggie Bush.

[PSU Cane]

I wouldnt be surprised to see Bush traded or cut. While Philbin seems excited to have him as a checkdown/wideout option, he will be making just under $5 million or so this season. Way to much for a situational player, even one as good as he is. This coaching staff is high on Slaton, Miller was just drafted, and Ireland isnt about to throw away Thomas after a single season. Unless Messam blows away the staff, hes destined to be cut.

As for tight end, those 3 are probably locks, but last years left overs are probably gone. Depending on how Brown does we might throw him on the practice squad(is he eligible for that?).

Forget that.....Bush was our BEST offensive player last year and played hard every game unlike some others on the roster. He was a leader and to me, he turned the corner in his career by staying healthy and becoming a more physical runner. I think a 1-2 combo of Bush-Miller can be electric. Get those guys the ball in open space and use Thomas as a short yard/late game battering ram.

I have a feeling we might keep all the guys listed, including Slaton (who i think fits this offense perfectly). Bush/Thomas/Miller have all been nicked up in years past so we need some depth there. If the coaches don't sign a pure FB and use guys like Messam and Clay as situational blockers, you can use that roster spot for the extra RB.

[Zounds]

Messam gets the axe imo. Slaton played in a zone blocking scheme and seems to be a better fit. I honestly dont understand the Messam signing at all.

[LANGER72]

IMHO

At RB, Bush, Slaton, Miller are starters. Thomas or Messam get's cut.

At TE, Fasano, Clay and Egnew. The other TE's (Brown, Yeatman, Mastrud) are blocking types. They no longer fit the scheme. If Brown impresses, Clay could be listed as fullback.

At WR, Hartline, Bess, Coleman and the guys from the rest competing for the last 3 spots.

RB(4 or 5 - including full back)
TE (3)
WR (6)

[hemidemon]

I wouldnt be surprised to see Bush traded or cut. While Philbin seems excited to have him as a checkdown/wideout option, he will be making just under $5 million or so this season. Way to much for a situational player, even one as good as he is. This coaching staff is high on Slaton, Miller was just drafted, and Ireland isnt about to throw away Thomas after a single season. Unless Messam blows away the staff, hes destined to be cut.

As for tight end, those 3 are probably locks, but last years left overs are probably gone. Depending on how Brown does we might throw him on the practice squad(is he eligible for that?).

I have to disagree with you on Bush. He's the type of back Philbin wants. I really believe Riggie will flourish in this offense.

[CalDolFan10x14]

I don't think Messam makes the squad.

[deadlydolphinz]

I wouldnt be surprised to see Bush traded or cut.

You do not trade or cut your most explosive offensive weapon.... ohh wait....
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[tylerdolphin]

I wouldnt be surprised to see Bush traded or cut. While Philbin seems excited to have him as a checkdown/wideout option, he will be making just under $5 million or so this season. Way to much for a situational player, even one as good as he is. This coaching staff is high on Slaton, Miller was just drafted, and Ireland isnt about to throw away Thomas after a single season. Unless Messam blows away the staff, hes destined to be cut.

As for tight end, those 3 are probably locks, but last years left overs are probably gone. Depending on how Brown does we might throw him on the practice squad(is he eligible for that?).

No way we cut Bush. That would leave us with exactly zero proven explosive threats on offense.

[Spesh]

Forget that.....Bush was our BEST offensive player last year and played hard every game unlike some others on the roster. He was a leader and to me, he turned the corner in his career by staying healthy and becoming a more physical runner. I think a 1-2 combo of Bush-Miller can be electric. Get those guys the ball in open space and use Thomas as a short yard/late game battering ram.

I have a feeling we might keep all the guys listed, including Slaton (who i think fits this offense perfectly). Bush/Thomas/Miller have all been nicked up in years past so we need some depth there. If the coaches don't sign a pure FB and use guys like Messam and Clay as situational blockers, you can use that roster spot for the extra RB.

So was Bell, and we cut him over a roughly the same contract in a position that we are very thin in.

Keep in mind, Philbin has already stated that he wont be using Bush like Sparano did. His vision for him is more in line with what Bush did with the Saints. Passes into open space so Bush can run around. I have little doubt that Reggie was less than thrilled by that news.

Injuries could very well make the difference. If healthy i cant see us going out there with 4 running backs, especially when we could get a cheaper "4th" back if the need arises. But Miller dropped in the draft due to injury and we might want to limit him to kick returns for a bit. Still doubt Messam will hit the field for us.

[Pat-London]

C Clay is too small to play TE.

Clay - 6'3'' 239lbs
Hernandez [New England TE] - 6'1'' 245lbs

care to correct your statement/opinion?