Scientists claim there was another universe before ours

[rob19]

It stands to reason. Afterall, everything else we observe in nature is cyclical, including life. Why wouldn't we expect the universe as a whole to be the same?

I like the multiverse theory that there is a mass of universes like foam, wherein new universes bubble up, some lasting short periods of time, and others lasting longer. When one bubble universe "dies", another is formed as a result.

Might as well post this video, it fits with the theme:


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love me some Alan Watts

[CedarPhin]

Your new sig pic is $$$.

[Wildbill3]

When the universe ends and the next one begins...how long does that take? Would it be measured in Time or through some manner of aging the decay of what is left over?

how do you measure time when time ceases to exist in a black hole?

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The crazy thing is, when you look at the stars, you're looking back through time.

even looking at the sun, besides burning your eyes is the same principle.

[NY8123]

how do you measure time when time ceases to exist in a black hole?

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even looking at the sun, besides burning your eyes is the same principle.

Time doesn't cease in a black hole it appears to cease based on perspective. To people outside the black hole is appears to slow down but if you lived in the black hole time would continue at the same rate as it always has relative to you.

[rob19]

Well I don't know if any of you are aware of this, but time slows down the faster you're moving.

A case of time dilation in action is that astronauts actually return from their missions on the
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(ISS) having aged less than the mission control crew that stayed on earth. Such time dilation has been repeatedly demonstrated (see
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below), for instance by small disparities in
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on earth and in space, even though both clocks work perfectly (it is not a mechanical malfunction). The laws of nature are such that time itself (i.e.
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) will bend due to differences in either gravity or velocity - each of which affects time in different ways

[emeraldfin]

Dont know if I have read this right, but according to that theory, when all energy is sucked up by black holes, it then creates a new big bang and thus the universe is then created (again).

Would that then mean we are in a constant cycle of creation and destruction? The world in which we are living now, is something that we have lived before and will live again.

Maybe Heraclitus was wrong, maybe you can step into the same river twice.

[rob19]

Dont know if I have read this right, but according to that theory, when all energy is sucked up by black holes, it then creates a new big bang and thus the universe is then created (again).

Would that then mean we are in a constant cycle of creation and destruction? The world in which we are living now, is something that we have lived before and will live again.

Maybe Heraclitus was wrong, maybe you can step into the same river twice.

Well, I didn't gather from that it'd be the exact same universe, but certainly a 'new' one though. This whole notion is actually quite similar to the Hindu notion of the Yuga's.

Mad props on the Heraclitus reference!

[emeraldfin]

Well, I didn't gather from that it'd be the exact same universe, but certainly a 'new' one though. This whole notion is actually quite similar to the Hindu notion of the Yuga's.

Mad props on the Heraclitus reference!

I wasn't actually aware of the Yuga philosophy.

Huge thanks for pointing that out!!!

[Wildbill3]

Time doesn't cease in a black hole it appears to cease based on perspective. To people outside the black hole is appears to slow down but if you lived in the black hole time would continue at the same rate as it always has relative to you.

Which is actually a paradox because if I could live til I was infinity on the outside of a black hole it would seem to me that nothing ever actually disappeared into the black hole. But if you were going into one head first and you looked down at your feet,your feet would seem. Miles away. Which begs the question does anything ever. Actually reach the center of a black hole or are things trapped in an infinite journey? So how would all these black holes combine ( super black holes like the one possibly at the center of our galaxy) and swallow up all the mass in the universe to eventually create another big bang? Plus if the universe is expanding at a rate at least as fast as the speed of light many think that it'll never collapse upon itself again so the last big bang will probably be the last big bang ever

[NY8123]

Well I don't know if any of you are aware of this, but time slows down the faster you're moving.

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Yes! As you approach the speed of light you age slower than the people who are moving slower. This is the same effect measured in the GPS satellite system, they are adjusted continually to compensate for this effect.

Which is actually a paradox because if I could live til I was infinity on the outside of a black hole it would seem to me that nothing ever actually disappeared into the black hole. But if you were going into one head first and you looked down at your feet,your feet would seem. Miles away. Which begs the question does anything ever. Actually reach the center of a black hole or are things trapped in an infinite journey? So how would all these black holes combine ( super black holes like the one possibly at the center of our galaxy) and swallow up all the mass in the universe to eventually create another big bang? Plus if the universe is expanding at a rate at least as fast as the speed of light many think that it'll never collapse upon itself again so the last big bang will probably be the last big bang ever

Which is along the same lines as my theory, on a big enough and small enough scale nothing is observable below and above a certain level. If you were infinitely big a black hole would have zero mass and size to you, the same can be said if you were infinitely small, you wouldn't even notice the effect of the black hole because your size is beyond influence of the hole.