The Religion of Atheism

[Alter2Ego]

ALTER2EGO -to- EVERYONE:

Atheists consistently attempt to take the higher ground by pointing fingers of accusation at theists and accusing theists of committing all sorts of human rights violations in the name of "cultish religions," as they are fond of putting it. According to atheists, it is the belief in God that has caused people to commit the various atrocities common to mankind. Remove religion, belief in God, and belief in the Bible--the atheists argue--and the world will be a better place. This latter conclusion is mortally flawed for the following reasons:

1. Atheists have committed human rights violations en masse throughout history. For instance, Joseph Stalin--the atheist--ordered the deaths of between 40 million to 62 million people (20 million of which were everyday Soviet civilians), compared to the 6 million killed by Adolph Hitler the Roman Catholic "Christian."

In other words, the problem is not the Bible or God. The problem is people, including those in false religions which have failed to teach the masses Biblical truths. An appreciation for Biblical truths and Jehovah's righteous standards of what's right and what's wrong is the only detriment against people committing human rights violations. Blaming God for the crimes of false Christians is an attempt at passing the buck.

"See! This only I have found, that the true God made mankind upright, but they themselves have sought out many plans." (Ecclesiastes 7:29)


2. Atheism is itself a religion. While atheist will argue that they don't believe in any god, the issue is not merely non-belief in God or gods but in having ANY sort of belief system. The belief system of atheism is centered around the philosophy of "secular-humanism."


3. Atheism is a religion according to a 2005 Wisconsin federal court ruling as well as the U.S. Supreme Court—the highest court in the land.

[rob19]

puhhhhleeeaaassseeee give me your thoughts on these


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[rob19]

Exodus 16:14

And when the dew that lay was gone up, behold, upon the face of the wilderness there lay a small round thing, as small as the hoar frost on the ground.

[JCane]

Biblical truths

You lost me right around here somewhere.


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Then you mentioned something about Wisconsin.

Wisconsin is only relevant in Big 10 football.

Federal court rulings on what is and what isn't a Religion is out of their realm of expertise.

[Alter2Ego]

You lost me right around here somewhere.


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Then you mentioned something about Wisconsin.

Wisconsin is only relevant in Big 10 football.

Federal court rulings on what is and what isn't a Religion is out of their realm of expertise.

ALTER2EGO -to- JCANE:

Is that so. I'm sure the atheist who filed the lawsuit in Wisconsin, demanding his "religious rights," didn't share your sentiment. In fact, below is evidence that exposes atheists as hypocrites for insisting they are not religious. This evidence involves the 2005 Wisconsin Federal Court ruling in the case of Kaufman v. McCaughtry, in which a judge recognized Atheism as a religion. Keep your eyes on the words in red within the quotation.


EVIDENCE FOR THE HYPOCRISY OF ATHEISTS:

"Court Rules Atheism A Religion
Decides 1st Amendment protects prison inmate's right to start study group

Published: 08/20/2005 at 1:00 AM

A federal court of appeals ruled yesterday Wisconsin prison officials violated an inmate’s rights because they did not treat atheism as a religion.

"Atheism is [the inmate's] religion, and the group that he wanted to start was religious in nature even though it expressly rejects a belief in a supreme being," the 7th Circuit Court Of Appeals said."

The court decided the inmate’s First Amendment rights were violated because the prison refused to allow him to create a study group for atheists.

Brian Fahling, senior trial attorney for the American Family Association Center for Law & Policy, called the court’s ruling "a sort of Alice in Wonderland jurisprudence."

"Up is down, and atheism, the antithesis of religion, is religion," said Fahling.

The Supreme Court has said a religion need not be based on a belief in the existence of a supreme being. In the 1961 case of Torcaso v. Watkins, the court described "secular humanism" as a religion."

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[JCane]

JCANE -to- ALTER2EGO

Keep your eyes on the words in red:

**** that judge's ruling.

Atheism isn't a Religion.

Also, I assume that you believe that the courts have ALWAYS gotten it 110% right with their rulings. They've NEVER been wrong. Or are they wrong when it directly benefits your argument?

[rob19]

ALTER2EGO -to- JCANE:

Is that so. I'm sure the atheist who filed the lawsuit in Wisconsin, demanding his "religious rights," didn't share your sentiment. In fact, below is evidence that exposes atheists as hypocrites for insisting they are not religious. This evidence involves the 2005 Wisconsin Federal Court ruling in the case of of Kaufman v. McCaughtry, in which a judge recognized Atheism as a religion. Keep your eyes on the words in red within the quotation.


EVIDENCE FOR THE HYPOCRISY OF ATHEISTS:


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stop dodging me!

[Alter2Ego]

stop dodging me!

ALTER2EGO -to- ROB19:

Dodging you! Don't be dramatic. I will respond to your posts when you present your own expressions--as opposed to loading up your posts with videos of what other people are saying. Somehow you seem to think that because someone said something on a videotape, it's supposed to give their personal opinions more relevance than when it is not videotaped. I will not spend the time watching somebody who isn't even on this forum rattling off his or her personal opinions on video.

You will notice that I always state my position in my own words, after which I partially quote a source when I have one. In addition, I highlight portions of the source's statements in bold or in red if I want to bring something to the attention of others. Last but not least, I provide the weblink or identify the source by name or by publication. I don't just post a weblink or a videotape. Of course since that's your preference, go for it.

[rob19]

ALTER2EGO -to- ROB19:

Dodging you! Don't be dramatic. I will respond to your posts when you present your own expressions--as opposed to loading up your posts with videos of what other people are saying. Somehow you seem to think that because someone said something on a videotape, it's supposed to give their personal opinions more relevance that when it is not videotaped. I will not spend the time watching somebody who isn't even on this forum rattling off his or her personal opinions on video.

You will notice that I always state my position in my own words, after which I partially quote a source when I have one. In addition, I highlight portions of the source's statements in bold or in red if I want to bring something to the attention of others. Last but not least, I provide the weblink or identify the source by name or by publication. I don't just post a weblink or a videotape. Of course since that's your preference, go for it.

Relax I'm being jocular. If you don't want to watch all of them then do me the favor of watching the first two.

I don't know what significance the medium of the idea is, but if you prefer I transcribe it then whatever floats your boat. Basically, John Marco Allegro, a Dead Sea Scrolls scholar of world renown, argues that Jesus Christ was in fact a hallucinogenic mushroom rather than a real person. If you aren't familiar with The Dead Sea Scrolls, it's the earliest writings of the bible.

As a
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, Allegro analysed the derivations of language. He traced biblical words and phrases back to their roots in
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, and showed how Sumerian
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recur in varying but related contexts in many
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, classical and other
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. Although meanings changed to some extent, Allegro found some basic religious ideas passing on through the genealogy of words. His book The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross relates the development of language in Eurasia to the development of myths, religions and cultic practices in many cultures. Allegro believed he could prove through etymology that the roots of Christianity, as of many other religions, lay in
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; and that cultic practices, such as ingesting
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to perceive the Mind of God, persisted into
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times.

Here, these are the two. Watch these and give me your thoughts on them.

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Dead Sea Scrolls

The texts are of great historical and religious significance and include the earliest known surviving copies of biblical and extra-biblical documents as well as preserve evidence of great diversity in late
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. They are written in
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, and
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, mostly on
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, but with some written on
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and
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.

[Alter2Ego]

JCANE -to- ALTER2EGO

Keep your eyes on the words in red:

**** that judge's ruling.

Atheism isn't a Religion.

Also, I assume that you believe that the courts have ALWAYS gotten it 110% right with their rulings. They've NEVER been wrong. Or are they wrong when it directly benefits your argument?

ALTER2EGO -to- J CANE:
The issue is not whether or not I assume court rulings are always right but that the atheists themselves argued they were in a religion when they filed their lawsuits.

For instance, if you notice in the 2005 Wisconsin Federal Court case, that was an Appeals Court decision. In other words, the atheist lost the first round in superior court and took it to the appeals court where he won. Additionally, as far back as 1961, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that atheism is a religion--after another atheist filed a lawsuit. In the 1961 case of Torcaso v. Watkins, the atheist lost at both the superior court level and the appeals court level. So he took it all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court--the highest court in the land where court decisions affect the entire USA. In the Supreme Court, he won.