LOL @ The Jets

[Vaark]

Too Funny: A team that went a legit 7-7 with a 6 game losing streak and a beating teams with barely a cumulative .300 winning percentage over their real first 14 games before being considered meaningless games to 2 legitimate playoff bound opponents and team that was lucky to go 8-8 because of Tony Romo last minute brainfart, sandwiched in between a good but not great wild card team is just about as "Elite" as Britney Spears is the second coming of Celine Dion! That's as funny as refusing 2 first round picks for Sanchez.


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[rainmaker1313]

You really shouldn't discuss ticket sales. The jets have been sold out since the 70s, w/ the new Stadium and PSLs they have turend off a lot of old STH's and the $50 seats are some of the worst in the league as you are a mile high away from the field. They screwed the fans w/ PSLs aqnd this is a backlash of that, nothing else and we will be sold out unlike your team.

What I really love is how the Jet fans mocked the wildcat and Sparano and now they have Sparano and are running the wildcat! .........AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

[Kinzua]

They traded him for a 5th b/c he was going to be suspended 4 games and was in the last year of his contract.

what attitude problems are the Jets having now? seems to me Miami has more issues w/ players upset over releasing a bum WR than any LR issues we have.

If the Jets wanted to dump him they would have in March.

Yeah, they could have, but it would have cost them a $ 9 million cap hit, which is why they didn't move him.

If you think Holmes' attitude has been "adjusted", you are delusional. The only reason he hasn't caused trouble already is because he hasn't played due to his rib injury. Sanchez is still playing the same crappy way he was last season, and Tebow is even worse. Holmes sees his career being wasted by inept QB play, and he's frustrated. He'll start trouble yet again this season.

[Bingit]

Yeah, they could have, but it would have cost them a $ 9 million cap hit, which is why they didn't move him.

If you think Holmes' attitude has been "adjusted", you are delusional. The only reason he hasn't caused trouble already is because he hasn't played due to his rib injury. Sanchez is still playing the same crappy way he was last season, and Tebow is even worse. Holmes sees his career being wasted by inept QB play, and he's frustrated. He'll start trouble yet again this season.

Exactly!! If they hadn't just giving him that ridiculous contract the year before he would have been cut. This guy is baby T.O, and Marshall put together. Lol!! He will be a problem again. It is just a matter of time. Pitt knew it and that is why they got rid of him. The Jets were stupid and gave him all that guaranteed money so they are stuck with him. Lol!!

It would be naive to believe money wasn't a factor. As one person familiar with the team's thinking said recently, there were "8 million reasons" to keep Holmes. Now it's 15 million.

[13ktownguy]

so the giants aren't elite since they missed 2 of the last 3 postseasons? Pitt isn't eite as they missed in '09

How do you explain that they are much better teams than the jets? And yet you are elite and they are not. You cant deny that both the Steelers and Gmen are better teams, never mind the silly elite argument!

[Kinzua]

How do you explain that they are much better teams than the jets? And yet you are elite and they are not. You cant deny that both the Steelers and Gmen are better teams, never mind the silly elite argument!

Our boy Junc inhabits an alternative universe where up is down and left is right and the compass needle always points due south.

[The New Guy]

How do you explain that they are much better teams than the jets? And yet you are elite and they are not. You cant deny that both the Steelers and Gmen are better teams, never mind the silly elite argument!

He is not saying that the Giants and Steelers are not elite. He is saying that I can not consider them elite since I think you need to have quality regular seasons each year. He uses the Steelers missing the playoffs in 09 and the Giants missing 2 out of 3 post seasons to try and make his point. The problem with that is the Steelers went 12-4 with a Super Bowl win in 2008 (the year before they missed the playoffs (At 9-7) ) and then went 12-4 with a Super Bowl app the year after. They went 12-4 again in 2011.

The Giants won the Super Bowl and went 12-4, 8-8, and 10-6 before winning another Super Bowl. That 30-18 record in those years is not elite by itself. Winning the Super Bowl 40% of the time in those 5 seasons is what makes them elite.

Struggling to win 9 games 2 out of 3 seasons with nothing to show for it is not elite. Had the Jets won or even made the Super Bowl both of those years, I would reconsider. As it stands, 9-7, 11-5 and 8-8 with 2 AFCCG losses is not elite to me.

[Vaark]

Our boy Junc inhabits an alternative universe where up is down and left is right and the compass needle always points due south.

and unless you watch the nuances of the game, poor stats are conveniently deemed immaterial .. that's of course unless we're talking about good stats regardless of the outcome of the game.


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[13ktownguy]

They only had one season where they deserved to be in the playoffs and that was the year Pittsburgh beat them in the playoffs...but the jets are elite and the Steelers are not...ok!

[JETSJETSJETS]

What I really love is how the Jet fans mocked the wildcat and Sparano and now they have Sparano and are running the wildcat! .........AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

Few things Dolfans fail to realize.

1. Sparano was not the OC in Miami and he's not a HC of the Jets.
2. We will not run 30+ plays out of WC like Miami did.
3. Jets did not draft Pat White, rather traded for a known commodity.
4. Tebow did pretty good in Denver
5. Jets had been running the WC successfully long before Dolphins.
6. You just lost your second best defender to yet another draft pick soon to be a bust. I wouldn't be laughing.
7. You don't have a WR
8. You don't have an NFL caliber QB.
9. You don't have a LT
10. What you do have is a team in rebuild process (been that way since Marino retired)
11. You have a rookie HC
12. You have Jeff Ireland...nuff said.