LOL @ The Jets

[PhinzN703]

is that why you change the criteria hourly?

Silly guy

[The New Guy]

Tied for NFL lead in playoff wins
lead AFC in playoff wins
ONLY team to reach 2 title games in last 3 seasons

They have been elite whether your jealousy allows you to see it or not.

I have already responded to that.

It has nothing to do with that. I'd say the same about any other team including the Dolphins. The facts are that the Jets made it the the AFCCG in 2009 and 2010. That doesn't make them elite. Just because a team advances further than another team in the playoffs does not automatically make them a better team. Not everyone plays the same opponents. The Jets advanced further than the Ravens 2 out of the last 3 seasons. Are the Jets a better team than the Ravens because of that? The Jets lost to the Colts in the AFCC game in 2009. The Ravens had to play them 1 week earlier in the division round. The Jets lost to the Steelers in AFCCG in 2010. The Ravens had to play them 1 week earlier. Had it been the Jets who had to play Indy or Pitt in the Division game, it is very likely that the Ravens would be the team that advanced further each year.

To me, you need quality regular seasons as well as playoff wins to be considered one of the best teams. Bal went 11-5, 9-7, 12-4 and 12-4 in the last 4 years with their 2 AFCC games, so I consider them 1 of the best in the AFC. NE went 10-6, 14-2 and 13-3 with a Super Bowl App, so I would consider them one of the best in the AFC. 9-7, 11-5 and 8-8 is not one of the best to me even thought they have more playoff wins than both of those teams.

[nyjunc]

so the Giants aren't elite since they won their 2 Sbs w/ 10-6 and 9-7 records? This is a game where you are defined by what you do in jan and Feb. The jets earned playoff spots in '09 and '10 and have won the most playoff games in the league- that's elite.

[The New Guy]

so the Giants aren't elite since they won their 2 Sbs w/ 10-6 and 9-7 records? This is a game where you are defined by what you do in jan and Feb. The jets earned playoff spots in '09 and '10 and have won the most playoff games in the league- that's elite.

Did the Jets win 2 Super Bowls?

[grogan12]

so the Giants aren't elite since they won their 2 Sbs w/ 10-6 and 9-7 records? This is a game where you are defined by what you do in jan and Feb. The jets earned playoff spots in '09 and '10 and have won the most playoff games in the league- that's elite.

Still keeping the dream alive I see.
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Using your two year sample you wou would think the league is running scared from the bid bad Jests. Sorry son but reality is just a few weeks away and all the Green Kool Aid in the world won't change it, but hey you can always watch the tapes of those two back to back AFC Championship losses to remind you of the good old days.
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[PhinzN703]

so the Giants aren't elite since they won their 2 Sbs w/ 10-6 and 9-7 records? This is a game where you are defined by what you do in jan and Feb. The jets earned playoff spots in '09 and '10 and have won the most playoff games in the league- that's elite.

Giants are elite. Jets are not elite. Very easy to see. And I am jealous of the Giants success too. So....now what?

[nyjunc]

Did the Jets win 2 Super Bowls?

This is your quote:

To me, you need quality regular seasons as well as playoff wins to be considered one of the best teams.

so according to you the Giants are not elite.

[The New Guy]

This is your quote:



so according to you the Giants are not elite.

This is also a quote of mine:

If the Giants lost the NFCC game those years instead of winning the SB, I would not consider them Elite, and neither would you. Winning the Super Bowl 40% of the time in the last 5 seasons makes them elite

[nyjunc]

This is also a quote of mine:

I just love how you guys post your criteria then you don't follow it all for the sole purpose of being afraid to label the Jets elite under rex.

[PhinzN703]

I just love how you guys post your criteria then you don't follow it all for the sole purpose of being afraid to label the Jets elite under rex.

The Jets aren't elite in anyone's criteria except for yours. You HAVE to win a Super Bowl to be an elite team. How can you be elite while failing to beat the other AFC team still standing twice?