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[nyjunc]

Until the last 3 games
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Otherwise known as the rest of the season. Dolt.

don't stoop to the level of others, you are better than that.

the rest of the season? 3 games, 19% of the season.

even w/ the last 3 games Mark had a comparable season to the great Joe Flacco.

[PhinzN703]

don't stoop to the level of others, you are better than that.

the rest of the season? 3 games, 19% of the season.

even w/ the last 3 games Mark had a comparable season to the great Joe Flacco.

16 game season. Don't sectionalize it to make Sanchez seem better. Jesus christ, the last 3 games fall into the category of most important part of a team's season. If Sanchez's last 3 games are excused b/c he played like ****, that alone should tell you the sort of QB he is.

[nyjunc]

16 game season. Don't sectionalize it to make Sanchez seem better. Jesus christ, the last 3 games fall into the category of most important part of a team's season. If Sanchez's last 3 games are excused b/c he played like ****, that alone should tell you the sort of QB he is.

It was and that's why Flacco had a better year but overall they had similar years and we didn't miss the playoffs just b/c of the QB.

[The New Guy]

where did I say he didn't have elite talent last year?

you can use metrics, I'll use eyes. Sanchez had better #s in 2011 until the final 3 games and he has better postseason #s but you guys do nothing but throw out #s until they work against you.

Then you should know his 2011 numbers (even before the last 3 games) are meaningless, as anyone who watched him play that year could see he had regressed.

It was and that's why Flacco had a better year but overall they had similar years and we didn't miss the playoffs just b/c of the QB.

The Jets missed the playoffs by 2 games. There were at least 3 games where Sanchez cost the Jets the win.

[nyjunc]

Then you should know his 2011 numbers (even before the last 3 games) are meaningless, as anyone who watched him play that year could see he had regressed.




The Jets missed the playoffs by 2 games. There were at least 3 games where Sanchez cost the Jets the win.

He wasn't bad in 2011, his #s in '10 worse worse while he was much better in '10 but he was not bad overall in 2011.

he was BAD in 2012.

There were more games we lost b/c of the D and STs than the QB in 2011.

[PhinzN703]

It was and that's why Flacco had a better year but overall they had similar years and we didn't miss the playoffs just b/c of the QB.

Flacco had a better year b/c he had a better year. Are you saying Sanchez was better the first 13 games but not overall? You can't do that. It's not possible to split games up just to show one guy was better than the other. It's the whole year or nothing.

[The New Guy]

He wasn't bad in 2011, his #s in '10 worse worse while he was much better in '10 but he was not bad overall in 2011.

he was BAD in 2012.

There were more games we lost b/c of the D and STs than the QB in 2011.

He wasn't good either. The D and STs put the Jets O in great spots all of 2011 only to see the QB and the O come up short time and time again. The D and STs played a huge role in the wins against Dallas, Jacksonville, Miami, and SD. I have a feeling that you blame the D and STs for several losses that Sanchez is more responsible for. Which games do you feel the D and STs were the main reason the Jets lost?

[nyjunc]

He wasn't good either. The D and STs put the Jets O in great spots all of 2011 only to see the QB and the O come up short time and time again. The D and STs played a huge role in the wins against Dallas, Jacksonville, Miami, and SD. I have a feeling that you blame the D and STs for several losses that Sanchez is more responsible for. Which games do you feel the D and STs were the main reason the Jets lost?

The D stunk in 2011 and cost us many more games than the QB. The only losss you can completely pin on the QB was the Baltimore game.

at Oak:
Sts fumble killed us, when sanchez got us back w/in a TD w/ over 5 mins left the D allowed Oak to take time off the clock and kick a FG to put it out of reach

at NE:
pull w/in 6 w/ 7 mins left, D allows NE to take 6 mins off the clock and kick a FG to end hopes.

vs. NE:
O scores TD to give us 9-6 lead w/ just over a minute left in 1st half. In a minute NE goes 80 yds for the TD
In the 4th we pulled w/in a TD at the beginning of the qtr. D then allows NE to go on 7 min TD drive to push the lead to 14.

at Den:
yes Mark threw an INT for a TD and he deserves his share of the blame BUT D shut down Den all night long, Tebow gets the ball at his 5 late int he game w/ the Jets up 3 and the D allows him to go 95 yds for GW TD- couldn't even hold them to a tying FG.

at Phi:
they all stunk but the D was humiliated this game

vs. NYG:
Up 7-3 late in the 1st half, NYG has it 3rd and 10 from their 1. A stop sets up the O to AT LEAST get a FG and go up 10-3 if not a TD to go up 14-3. D allows 99 yd TD which changed game and season for both teams.

at Mia:

Up 10-6 in the 3rd, Miami goes on 21 play almost 13 minute drive to take 13-10 lead which changed the game.


Mark deserves his share of the blame, we didn't make the playoffs b/c of the D. If we had the 2009, 2010 or 2012 D in 2011 we easily make the playoffs.

[The New Guy]

at Oak:
Sts fumble killed us, when sanchez got us back w/in a TD w/ over 5 mins left the D allowed Oak to take time off the clock and kick a FG to put it out of reach

What about when the STs put Sanchez on the Raiders 24 with the game tied at 7. He threw a pick, costing the team at least 3 points. What did Sanchez do after the Raiders tied the game at 17 in the 3rd quarter? The D held the Raiders to a 3 and out and gave the ball to him near midfield. Sanchez went 3 and out. The D held again, and Sanchez couldn't convert a 3rd and 2 and then a 4th and 2 and gave the ball up on downs in long FG range. After that is when the Raiders took the 24-17 lead. Yes, the fumble on the kick off return really hurt, but Sanchez had already done a lot of damage himself.

I wouldn't place all of the blame on Sanchez for this game, but he played a big part in the loss. The D and STs played a part as well, but I don't think it is fair to say that the D and STs were the main reason for this loss.

at NE:
pull w/in 6 w/ 7 mins left, D allows NE to take 6 mins off the clock and kick a FG to end hopes.

What about the D intercepting Brady in the RZ right before the half? What about the STs returning the kickoff to the Pats 20? It's nice that the O pulled within 6 with 7 minutes left in the game, but the D and STs played a big part in that happening. It is easy to point out the last drive when NE ate up a ton of clock, but what about the (6) 3 and outs the O had in the game? (3) 3 and outs from the 3rd quarter on. Again, I don't blame Sanchez alone for this loss, but you can't pin it on the D either.

vs. NE:
O scores TD to give us 9-6 lead w/ just over a minute left in 1st half. In a minute NE goes 80 yds for the TD
In the 4th we pulled w/in a TD at the beginning of the qtr. D then allows NE to go on 7 min TD drive to push the lead to 14.

NE never would have had the opportunity to go 80 yds if not for the bonehead timeout called by Sanchez right before the half. What about Sanchez throwing a pick only down 7 and on the NE 37 yard line? What about the pick 6 down 14 with 7 minutes left in the game? Again, I don't think it is fair to put all the blame on Sanchez for this one, but it is also not fair to put it all on the D either.

at Den:
yes Mark threw an INT for a TD and he deserves his share of the blame BUT D shut down Den all night long, Tebow gets the ball at his 5 late int he game w/ the Jets up 3 and the D allows him to go 95 yds for GW TD- couldn't even hold them to a tying FG.

The D took at least 3 points off the board when they stopped Den on 4th and 1 on the Jets 21 yardline on the first drive of the game. Sanchez gave the Broncos 7 points which tied the game at 10. The D held Denver from that point on and all Sanchez could do is lead the O to 3 points. Up 3 with 7 minutes in the game, the D and STs give him the ball on the Denver 47, and does the O close out the game? No, they go 3 and out and give the ball back to Den.

This game is completely on Sanchez.

at Phi:
they all stunk but the D was humiliated this game

They all stunk, but the O started it off with a fumble which resulted in a TD, and then when the STs gave the Jets O the ball on the Philly 14 with a chance to get right back in it, the Jets throw a pick. At 14-0 the Jets go 3 and out and give the ball back to Philly. At 21-0 the Jets fumble on their own 17 leading to another score for Philly. You can't put all the blame the D and STs for this one either.

vs. NYG:
Up 7-3 late in the 1st half, NYG has it 3rd and 10 from their 1. A stop sets up the O to AT LEAST get a FG and go up 10-3 if not a TD to go up 14-3. D allows 99 yd TD which changed game and season for both teams.

That was a big play for the Giants, but there was a lot of football left to play with the score only 10-7. What did the O do when the D held the Giants on their next 3 drives? Sanchez and the O had four chances to tie or take the lead and did nothing. Down 13 and on the Giants 1, he turned it over with a fumble. The D gets the ball back with an interception and gives the O the ball on the Giants 11, which led to a score and cut the lead to 6. The Jets D holds again and gives the ball back to the Jets O only down 6 and they go 3 and out. The D holds again only down 6 with a little over 2 minutes and Sanchez has a saftey. The game was over at that point. Sanchez deserves more blame in this loss than the D and STs.

at Mia:

Up 10-6 in the 3rd, Miami goes on 21 play almost 13 minute drive to take 13-10 lead which changed the game.

Up 10-3 the D gives Sanchez the ball near midfield and Sanchez throws a pick which leads to a Miami FG. Start of the 3rd, the D holds and Sanchez and the O does nothing with a 10-6 lead. After Miami has the long drive and goes up 3, Sanchez throws another pick and give Miami the ball on the Jets 25. The D held Miami to just a FG. Down Just 6 points on the Miami 10, Sanchez throws another pick which gets returned to the Jets 36. The game is over at that point.

This one is on Sanchez as well.

Mark deserves his share of the blame, we didn't make the playoffs b/c of the D. If we had the 2009, 2010 or 2012 D in 2011 we easily make the playoffs.

Sanchez single handedly lost the Ravens game, Broncos game and Mia game. He played a big part in the loss to the Giants as well. The D and STs single handedly won the Dallas game, and played a huge role in the wins over Mia, SD, and Jax. The Jets missed out on the playoffs because of Sanchez, not because of the D and STs.

[nyjunc]

What about when the STs put Sanchez on the Raiders 24 with the game tied at 7. He threw a pick, costing the team at least 3 points. What did Sanchez do after the Raiders tied the game at 17 in the 3rd quarter? The D held the Raiders to a 3 and out and gave the ball to him near midfield. Sanchez went 3 and out. The D held again, and Sanchez couldn't convert a 3rd and 2 and then a 4th and 2 and gave the ball up on downs in long FG range. After that is when the Raiders took the 24-17 lead. Yes, the fumble on the kick off return really hurt, but Sanchez had already done a lot of damage himself.

I wouldn't place all of the blame on Sanchez for this game, but he played a big part in the loss. The D and STs played a part as well, but I don't think it is fair to say that the D and STs were the main reason for this loss.




What about the D intercepting Brady in the RZ right before the half? What about the STs returning the kickoff to the Pats 20? It's nice that the O pulled within 6 with 7 minutes left in the game, but the D and STs played a big part in that happening. It is easy to point out the last drive when NE ate up a ton of clock, but what about the (6) 3 and outs the O had in the game? (3) 3 and outs from the 3rd quarter on. Again, I don't blame Sanchez alone for this loss, but you can't pin it on the D either.



NE never would have had the opportunity to go 80 yds if not for the bonehead timeout called by Sanchez right before the half. What about Sanchez throwing a pick only down 7 and on the NE 37 yard line? What about the pick 6 down 14 with 7 minutes left in the game? Again, I don't think it is fair to put all the blame on Sanchez for this one, but it is also not fair to put it all on the D either.



The D took at least 3 points off the board when they stopped Den on 4th and 1 on the Jets 21 yardline on the first drive of the game. Sanchez gave the Broncos 7 points which tied the game at 10. The D held Denver from that point on and all Sanchez could do is lead the O to 3 points. Up 3 with 7 minutes in the game, the D and STs give him the ball on the Denver 47, and does the O close out the game? No, they go 3 and out and give the ball back to Den.

This game is completely on Sanchez.



They all stunk, but the O started it off with a fumble which resulted in a TD, and then when the STs gave the Jets O the ball on the Philly 14 with a chance to get right back in it, the Jets throw a pick. At 14-0 the Jets go 3 and out and give the ball back to Philly. At 21-0 the Jets fumble on their own 17 leading to another score for Philly. You can't put all the blame the D and STs for this one either.



That was a big play for the Giants, but there was a lot of football left to play with the score only 10-7. What did the O do when the D held the Giants on their next 3 drives? Sanchez and the O had four chances to tie or take the lead and did nothing. Down 13 and on the Giants 1, he turned it over with a fumble. The D gets the ball back with an interception and gives the O the ball on the Giants 11, which led to a score and cut the lead to 6. The Jets D holds again and gives the ball back to the Jets O only down 6 and they go 3 and out. The D holds again only down 6 with a little over 2 minutes and Sanchez has a saftey. The game was over at that point. Sanchez deserves more blame in this loss than the D and STs.



Up 10-3 the D gives Sanchez the ball near midfield and Sanchez throws a pick which leads to a Miami FG. Start of the 3rd, the D holds and Sanchez and the O does nothing with a 10-6 lead. After Miami has the long drive and goes up 3, Sanchez throws another pick and give Miami the ball on the Jets 25. The D held Miami to just a FG. Down Just 6 points on the Miami 10, Sanchez throws another pick which gets returned to the Jets 36. The game is over at that point.

This one is on Sanchez as well.




Sanchez single handedly lost the Ravens game, Broncos game and Mia game. He played a big part in the loss to the Giants as well. The D and STs single handedly won the Dallas game, and played a huge role in the wins over Mia, SD, and Jax. The Jets missed out on the playoffs because of Sanchez, not because of the D and STs.

bad plays happen, that play was in the furst half. They eventually went up 17-7.
they are supposed to score every possession?
he got them back w/in a TD, the D allowed Oak to run clock and score.

Awesome but the D allowed 30 pts and when the O got it w/in 6 the D allowed a long drive to end it.

It was a bad TO bt that measn the D should allw NE to go 80 yds in a minute?


they allowed a QB who can't throw to go 95 yds in the final minutes.

it wasn't sanchez's fumble, nothing he could do about that and the INT later wasn't his fault as it went off Holmes hands.


99 yds on 3rd and 10 was a game changer and season changer. The Giants were pretty much a dead team to that point, it changed everything.

Matt Moore leads a 20+ play drive taking up nearly 13 mins- MATT MOORE. and you didn't even have Bush for that game. That's on the D.



Nowhere did I say mark didn't deserve blame but the D deserved more.


he singlehandedly lost the Bal game not the other 2. The D was most responsible for our failures.