Rex Ryan still believes that the Wildcat is viable offense in the NFL

[MadDog 88]

Amazing how Henne had 4-5 4th qtr comebacks to win in 2009 but they didn't count because the Dolphins trailed by less then 7 points. Somehow Sanchez has 4-5 qtr comebacks trailing by 6 and that counts. Let me guess Junc. You never said that right?
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[Kinzua]

Daddy's team? Freud would **** his pants.

Seriously! Remember DaBears' Refrigerator (William Perry), the big DLer who played OL on the goal line? Well, Jabba's got "Refrigerator Lite": CB Cromartie is going to play WR on occasion (and the wags keep laughing at the Fins' WRs!
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) plus he'll do Daddy at least one better with Savior Tebow: QB/HB/STer.

[nyjunc]

Those teams gave up more points than the Jets as a team did. You're telling me that doesn't factor into Sanchez winning a bit more?



Depends on the location. How many teams in domes have won the Super Bowl as opposed to teams in open-air stadiums?

Mayabe, our D also blew a ton of games and needed our O to bail them out. Again, you can't just look at #s w/o context.

It has nothing to do w/ SBs it has to do w/ QB play. They rarely have to play in the elements, it helps their passing #s which the average fan thinks tells us everything we need to know about QB play.

In comparison to Sanchez he did. More completions, attempts, better completion percentage, more yards, TDs, YPC, YPG, and a better QBR.

I know I know, stats don't mean anything. It's the leadership Sanchez shows that proves he was a Top 8-12 QB despite data as proof he wasn't.

You are a better fan than this Phinz to post nonsense like this. Oh and you forgot 8 more INTs, 7 less wins, or leading his O to 1.5 less PPG but he had a better rating!

Amazing how Henne had 4-5 4th qtr comebacks to win in 2009 but they didn't count because the Dolphins trailed by less then 7 points. Somehow Sanchez has 4-5 qtr comebacks trailing by 6 and that counts. Let me guess Junc. You never said that right?
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Let's look at Chad Henne's "comebacks" in 2009:

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-vs. NYJ. Trailing 27-24 late, win 31-27
-vs. TB. Trailing 23-22 late(after he threw an INT to set up TB's lead), win 25-23
-vs. NE: down 21-19 enetering 4th qtr, win 22-21

These are comebacks that history will never forget
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Let's compare that to sanchez's 10 comebacks:

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-at Den: Trailing 20-17, win 24-20. his was like a Henne comeback but at least it was on the road.
-at Det: Trailing by 10 w/ 3 mins left, leads Jets to 10 pts to send to OT then wins it on first drive of OT
-at Cle: after D blows 7 pt late lead(and K had missed multiple chip shots), Sanchez gets ball late in OT and wins the game
-vs. Hou: after D blows 23-7 4th qtr lead, gets the ball at NYJ 28 w/ 55 seconds w/ NO timeouts trailing by 4. Leads Td drive for the win
-PLAYOFFS at Indy. Trailing by 2 w/ under a min left. gets K in chip shot range to win it.

See any differences?

Seriously! Remember DaBears' Refrigerator (William Perry), the big DLer who played OL on the goal line? Well, Jabba's got "Refrigerator Lite": CB Cromartie is going to play WR on occasion (and the wags keep laughing at the Fins' WRs!
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) plus he'll do Daddy at least one better with Savior Tebow: QB/HB/STer.

A Bills fan laughing at anyone is the ultimate insult. It should be fun when you disappear from the board when buif starts losing like you always do.

[PhinzN703]

You are a better fan than this Phinz to post nonsense like this. Oh and you forgot 8 more INTs, 7 less wins, or leading his O to 1.5 less PPG but he had a better rating!

How is it nonsense? You don't agree with me that stats tell the story for how good a QB is. That doesn't make what I think nonsense.

[nyjunc]

How is it nonsense? You don't agree with me that stats tell the story for how good a QB is. That doesn't make what I think nonsense.

It's 100% nonsense, they won FOUR games,m they were out of most games and he was playing in mostly garbage time. He incresed his #s but again even w/ that he threw 8 more INTs, 7 less wins, or leading his O to 1.5 less PPG. he wasn't anywhere near as good as Sanchez in 2010, he wasn't even as good as Mark last year.

[PhinzN703]

It's 100% nonsense, they won FOUR games,m they were out of most games and he was playing in mostly garbage time. He incresed his #s but again even w/ that he threw 8 more INTs, 7 less wins, or leading his O to 1.5 less PPG. he wasn't anywhere near as good as Sanchez in 2010, he wasn't even as good as Mark last year.

Palmer has 6 total TDs more than Sanchez did that year and it's his fault the Jets had a whopping 1.5 more PPG? Funny

Yes they won four games. They also lost games by 3, 3, 7, 8, 6, 6, 18, 16, 4, 16, and 6. I know, I know, good teams win close games. I'm not claiming the Bengals were good that year. But when Palmer has better numbers than Sanchez (sans the INTs) and his team loses 5 more games, let's not put some of the blame on the running game, or STs, or the coaches, or the schemes, or luck or anything.

[nyjunc]

Palmer has 6 total TDs more than Sanchez did that year and it's his fault the Jets had a whopping 1.5 more PPG? Funny

Yes they won four games. They also lost games by 3, 3, 7, 8, 6, 6, 18, 16, 4, 16, and 6. I know, I know, good teams win close games. I'm not claiming the Bengals were good that year. But when Palmer has better numbers than Sanchez (sans the INTs) and his team loses 5 more games, let's not put some of the blame on the running game, or STs, or the coaches, or the schemes, or luck or anything.

1.5 PPg is still more, right? sanchez made plays to win games carson palmer did not.

In clopse games where their teams had a chance:

palmer:
bal: led cincy to GW FG
Cle: failed trailing by 3 w/ 9.5 to play
TB: failed tied late in loss to TB
Mia: failed down 8 w/ 11 mins to play
Pit: failed down 6 w/ 4 mins to plays
Bal: failed down 6 w/ 11 mins left
Pit: failed down 6 w/ qtr to play

successful once, failed 6 times. Not a good ration

Sanchez:
Bal: failed w/ 2 shots trailing by 1
Mia: led late TD to extend lead to 8
Den: led late TD drive to win by 4
Det: led GW FG drive in OT
Cle: GW TD in OT
Hou: GW TD drive in final seconds
Pit: tied entering 4th, win by 5
Indy: led GW FG drive in final seconds

7 successes, 1 failure but his QB rating wasn't quite as high

[ChambersWI]

The Wildcat can work if you aren't depending on it as a base of the offense.

[PhinzN703]

1.5 PPg is still more, right? sanchez made plays to win games carson palmer did not.

In clopse games where their teams had a chance:

palmer:
bal: led cincy to GW FG
Cle: failed trailing by 3 w/ 9.5 to play
TB: failed tied late in loss to TB
Mia: failed down 8 w/ 11 mins to play
Pit: failed down 6 w/ 4 mins to plays
Bal: failed down 6 w/ 11 mins left
Pit: failed down 6 w/ qtr to play

successful once, failed 6 times. Not a good ration

Sanchez:
Bal: failed w/ 2 shots trailing by 1
Mia: led late TD to extend lead to 8
Den: led late TD drive to win by 4
Det: led GW FG drive in OT
Cle: GW TD in OT
Hou: GW TD drive in final seconds
Pit: tied entering 4th, win by 5
Indy: led GW FG drive in final seconds

7 successes, 1 failure but his QB rating wasn't quite as high

I can't speak for any of those games except for the Dolphins game because I was at the game. Down 31-23 Henne had a pass to Marshall that he took to the 10 or so with a min left (give or take). They couldn't punch it in. The defense won that game with Sanchez's help. Sanchez had a good game that night, I have no trouble admitting that.

Let's not act like he was the only factor in it. Henne needs to get the team into the end zone to tie. He couldn't b/c the Jets stopped him.

[nyjunc]

I can't speak for any of those games except for the Dolphins game because I was at the game. Down 31-23 Henne had a pass to Marshall that he took to the 10 or so with a min left (give or take). They couldn't punch it in. The defense won that game with Sanchez's help. Sanchez had a good game that night, I have no trouble admitting that.

Let's not act like he was the only factor in it. Henne needs to get the team into the end zone to tie. He couldn't b/c the Jets stopped him.

The D allowed henne to carve them up, despite missing Braylon for the 1st qtr Sanchez kept leading us to points and gave the D the 8 pt cushion making Miami have to score a TD and get a 2 pt conversion. Miami also got the ball at their 31 w/ less than 2 mins left and the D barely held off Miami. We won b/c of Sanchez and the pass O.