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[hooshoops]

i don't see otten as a in line blocking te at all...you sure we are talking about the same kid??? long lean guy from san jose st??? i haven't noticed kelces body that way but i'll be paying attention for it now that you mentioned it...

[Fin Thirteen]

?? Let me check that out and come back to you Hoops, might be mixing him up. Definitely not confused about Kelce though. He's like Brian Hartline giving John Jerry a piggyback.

[datruth55]

Kelce's body looks squatty too me. Short legs, longer torso. Not sure how that gives him a high center of gravity.

[Fin Thirteen]

Kelce's body looks squatty too me. Short legs, longer torso. Not sure how that gives him a high center of gravity.

A long upper torso and short legs will raise your center of gravity, accentuated if you have a more bulk in your top half. He's very broad in the chest and shoulders but looks comparatively light in the legs. My point is he seems to go down very easily and from watching him it seems to be a body shape thing. I'm not an expert in biodynamics (surprising as that may sound!) but he never quite looks balanced or that he has his feet under him.

I'm not someone who likes the Parcellian Prototype way of drafting. But balance and center of gravity are big deals, imo.

[Tiger]

Hey I am a big fan of Marquess Wilson. What do you guys think of him as an option for us and where do you think he get drafted? (rd 3?)

[datruth55]

A long upper torso and short legs will raise your center of gravity, accentuated if you have a more bulk in your top half. He's very broad in the chest and shoulders but looks comparatively light in the legs. My point is he seems to go down very easily and from watching him it seems to be a body shape thing. I'm not an expert in biodynamics (surprising as that may sound!) but he never quite looks balanced or that he has his feet under him.

I'm not someone who likes the Parcellian Prototype way of drafting. But balance and center of gravity are big deals, imo.

Interesting you would think that about the body shape because Alex Gibbs, well know architect of the ZBS, says he wants "low waisted" players for his guards and centers.

GUARDS & CENTERS: height and length doesn't mean ****. Marginal height, but plays with great leverage. "LOW WAISTED" (long torso short legs), with leverage under our bodies. Healthier by not being heavy. RARE for them to play early. Nobody over 6'3". My center must be football brilliant.

[hooshoops]

Hey I am a big fan of Marquess Wilson. What do you guys think of him as an option for us and where do you think he get drafted? (rd 3?)

i see him as a poor mans aj green...very finesse game but smooth like green...if not for off the field issues i think he'd be a top 50 pick...as it stands probably round 3...but if all that stuff i'm hearing about him being a bad teammate and having a poor attitude is true and he's got skeletons in the closet i'd be surprised if philbin would endorse drafting him...

[Fin Thirteen]

Interesting you would think that about the body shape because Alex Gibbs, well know architect of the ZBS, says he wants "low waisted" players for his guards and centers.

A guard under 6'3" and a TE at 6'6" are very different body shapes - impossible to compare surely. Rather than we debate the meaning of center of gravity, have a look at him. You may form a different opinion of him but hopefully you'll at least see what I'm getting at. If not, no worries.

[Tiger]

i see him as a poor mans aj green...very finesse game but smooth like green...if not for off the field issues i think he'd be a top 50 pick...as it stands probably round 3...but if all that stuff i'm hearing about him being a bad teammate and having a poor attitude is true and he's got skeletons in the closet i'd be surprised if philbin would endorse drafting him...

True, but also remember who his coach was. This was not the first time Mike Leach has been labeled abusive.

[hooshoops]

True, but also remember who his coach was. This was not the first time Mike Leach has been labeled abusive.

can't argue with that...