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Originally Posted by peace4all
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I never said being elite for 1 season is enough, I just said he was elite in 2011, and judging by the fact that he is in the prime of his career and still has 6 good years left in him I think he has a solid chance at being considered an elite career qb by the time it's all said and done.

Point is, Eli being elite last year was the main reason that defense got a chance to step it up in the postseason. Even if the D hadn't played that well last year in the playoffs, I firmly believe Eli's play would still have been enough to win against those teams. Even if the Pack had scored their average of 35 points, the fact that Eli led his O to 37 points, including 3 TDs of his own, would still have been enough to win.

9 TDs against 1 pick in the playoffs is enough to put the team on your back, regardless of what the defense does, and 29 TDs in the reg season isn't all that bad either. IMHO, that defense owes Eli big time for giving them a chance to showcase their true talents in the playoffs, because without his 15 4th quarter comebacks their play last year would have been remembered as a huge letdown.
You want to call him elite for 2011? I can buy that for a single season, he was a top 5 guy in 2011 although I don't think he necessarily had an elite full season but I can buy that line of thinking but the talk of elite is an ongoing thing. The elite guys are the Bradys, Peytons, Rodgers types that every year have their teams in position to compete for championships -they may not win it but they always put their team in position. To me Eli is the opposite of his brother, peyton is one of the greatest reg season Qbs but he is mediocre in january where Eli goes the other way.

Yes he has a chance to be an Eli QB but he needs to consistently be a top guy, not one week great the next week mediocre/bad. Until he does that he won't truly be an elite.

W/o the D playing incredible football they never win the SB, never get to the SB. they would have been out in GB.

if he plays well earlier in games does he need all the comebacks? That's been a knock on sanchez too and a fair one.

he didn't have 15 4th qtr comebacks, he had 8 which is still outstadning but not 15 and he did throw some bad 4th qtr picks making those comebacks necessary.