Can we finally put the Matt Ryan vs Jake Long debate to rest now?

[CalDolFan10x14]

You know exactly why it was pointed out. The same reason junc points out random b.s. negatives about Eli in an attempt to foolishly discredit him.

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Meh, I didn't exactly read it as such. I'm sure anyone here will tell you Matt Ryan has had a great first half of the game...second half, not so much.

[SebasMiamiFan]

Ryan versus Long aside, we're all Dolphins fans and want what is best for the team. We just disagree as to what that might be and have a little fun debating it.

What impresses me about today's game is how much fun it has been to watch. We have two offenses that are dynamic, high scoring and have playmakers. We have coaches who aren't afraid to take risks, to throw the ball long. I can't remember the last time I could say that about the Dolphins. If I have to live with Ireland as our GM I sure hope he can get Philbin the players needed to get our offense to this point.

Well Philbin has shown he has balls of steel with some aggressive calls like the fake punt against the Rams, and the onside kick against the Jets. However, our GM doesn't and he always plays it safe and is allergic to play makers.

[MarshallFin1]

Pay attention. This thread is about Matt Ryan and Jake Long....not about the 49ers kicker.

are you nublars secretary?

[Mr. Day]

It is not Matt Ryan alone, it is the players that they put around him. If Tannehill had Julio Jones, Harry Douglass, and others to throw the ball to we wouldn't even be discussing this.

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This sounds like more of a Jeff Ireland / Bill Parcells problem. If they didn't waste picks on clowns like Pat White....

[Wildbill3]

And if the falcon lose this game it's back to the Ryan was the right choice, but it's a team game and not his fault his D folded down the stretch. ? Seriously i'm tired of the ryan vs. long debate, as if there ever really was a debate. I don't blame jeff Ireland for long being our 1 one pick. I blame parcels. And that being said, its not like jake has completely bombed in the NFL, he was a good choice, just not the best choice. We had no QB and we should've picked Ryan. but with that being said, we should've drafted Brees, we should've drafted Rogers, and we should've signed brees. lotsa what ifs, lotsa shouldas, and lotsa GMS that made those choices that are no longer here. Jeff picked his QB. lets worry about Tannehill's success, not Ryan's success.

[SebasMiamiFan]

It is not Matt Ryan alone, it is the players that they put around him. If Tannehill had Julio Jones, Harry Douglass, and others to throw the ball to we wouldn't even be discussing this.

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This sounds like more of a Jeff Ireland / Bill Parcells problem. If they didn't waste picks on clowns like Pat White....

Not that argument. Ryan is a great QB, and they put weapons around him. That's what a competent front office does. Finds a franchise QB, puts weapons around him.

[DeathStar]

One team is mediocre. One team is elite. End of discussion.

[Wildbill3]

It is not Matt Ryan alone, it is the players that they put around him. If Tannehill had Julio Jones, Harry Douglass, and others to throw the ball to we wouldn't even be discussing this.

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This sounds like more of a Jeff Ireland / Bill Parcells problem. If they didn't waste picks on clowns like Pat White....

I don't agree with the they, but I guess it's completely debatable.

[CalDolFan10x14]

are you nublars secretary?

Are you Nublar's shadow? You seem to follow him around in every thread it seems.

[z926538]

Not that argument. Ryan is a great QB, and they put weapons around him. That's what a competent front office does. Finds a franchise QB, puts weapons around him.

Exactly. Find a QB, put weapons around him. We may have our franchise quarterback, we'll know in two more years. Our front office has had five years to collect weapons to put around a QB and yet we have the current set of backs and receivers as the end result of that five year effort. Can anyone argue that effort has been a success? I want to see Tannehill with the kinds of weapons that they have on the 49ers or Falcons. I just doubt our current front office has the skill to make that happen -- even with five picks in the first three rounds and Fort Knox to spend in free agency.