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Thread: Bucs and Rams GM impressed with Ireland and Dolphins

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    I dont remember who it was, im pretty sure it was ckparrothead, that said they had firsthand knowledge that the Ravens front office doesn't think too highly of Ireland in terms of GM competency. Take that for what it's worth.

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    Originally Posted by Anvil35
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    Come on man - he has only been the final decision maker for two drafts. The last draft Sporano was part of and the first Philbin took part in. And IMHO they have drafted pretty well the last two years...
    I refuse to concede that because A.) his contract said he had final say and B.) he cashed his paychecks. Both of those things mean he is responsible.



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    Originally Posted by Anvil35
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    I definitely respect the opinions of the true professionals, not the janitors, teachers, FEDEX drivers or insurance agents et al. that consider themselves experts on finheaven...
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    I don't like Ireland either, but at least he didn't give us a ****ty record along with, no QB, and no money for FA or picks in the draft. If he screws this up its his own damn fault, but at least he got us a QB and saved up money and picks for this off season. Even if he gets fired next year because the rookies are not good enough yet, he is getting us at least 5 young guys who can make an impact on the team for years, and FA's as well. Hopefully he hits on some of those guys so we have something to build on rather than stay stuck at 7-9 for the next few years. I feel that once Brady goes on the decline, we are in the clear because the Bills and Jets are going backwards.

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    Originally Posted by Valandui
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    I refuse to concede that because A.) his contract said he had final say and B.) he cashed his paychecks. Both of those things mean he is responsible.
    Where can I see copy of Ireland's contract for the years that Parcells was here?

    And please pick up a book or article on Parcells management style - I have, and at every stop he has made at the GM level, and even some places where he wore the coaches hat - HE HAD FINAL SAY on ALL personnel. All others in the decision making process offered opinions - thats it...

    I would bet that if Parcells wasnt around when the Long/Ryan controversy reared it ugly head - Ireland chooses Ryan instead of Long...

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    Originally Posted by Anvil35
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    Where can I see copy of Ireland's contract for the years that Parcells was here?

    And please pick up a book or article on Parcells management style - I have, and at every stop he has made at the GM level, and even some places where he wore the coaches hat - HE HAD FINAL SAY on ALL personnel. All others in the decision making process offered opinions - thats it...

    I would bet that if Parcells wasnt around when the Long/Ryan controversy reared it ugly head - Ireland chooses Ryan instead of Long...
    Actually, Parcells wanted Chris Long.

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    Who remembers when we first signed Parcells?


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    He was the one in charge of turning this franchise around. How was in control of football operations and that wasn't relinquished until later on. Its funny all the 7-9 going around, because everyone wants to blame Ireland for all the seasons besides the 11-5 one, but I guess you guys would rather the great Parcells for that one and discount the other seasons. Ironic especially because the guy left us in the dirt and then straight up quit yet the guy in charge of football operations is going to take less of the blame then the puppet GM at the time

    lol you guys remember the threads and forums when Parcells was here or the season he left how Parcells was getting blamed for all the earlier drafts, and for taking Long over Ryan, and drafting Henne? Now its all Ireland fault because he was the "GM", yet when did Parcells give up CONTROL of football operations TO Ireland.

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    Originally Posted by Jamaicankid21
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    Who remembers when we first signed Parcells?


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    He was the one in charge of turning this franchise around. How was in control of football operations and that wasn't relinquished until later on. Its funny all the 7-9 going around, because everyone wants to blame Ireland for all the seasons besides the 11-5 one, but I guess you guys would rather the great Parcells for that one and discount the other seasons. Ironic especially because the guy left us in the dirt and then straight up quit yet the guy in charge of football operations is going to take less of the blame then the puppet GM at the time

    lol you guys remember the threads and forums when Parcells was here or the season he left how Parcells was getting blamed for all the earlier drafts, and for taking Long over Ryan, and drafting Henne? Now its all Ireland fault because he was the "GM", yet when did Parcells give up CONTROL of football operations TO Ireland.
    I don't care who gets the credit for the 11-5 season, the fact of the matter is we've been headed in the wrong direction since then.

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    7-9 with a lot of cap and draft picks! We could be easily a 10 win team if we hit on our picks!

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    Originally Posted by Fin_Frenzy_84
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    7-9 with a lot of cap and draft picks! We could be easily a 10 win team if we hit on our picks!
    Key word. I don't have a lot of faith in that based on past performance.

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