One thought on Hartline....

[roy_miami]

I wouldn't call 5 catches for 82 yards with zero TD's in two games winning.

Didn't Hartline have a record breaking day for not just him but any Miami Dolphin WR against the Cardinals?

[finfan54]

hartline will never score more then 4 tds a year... the guy has zero yac ability and zero redzone presence. to be honest i doubt he will get another 1000 yard season with a real #1 wr out there. Hes not worth resigning for more then 3 mil a year. Better options in the draft that will come at 1/4 the price. Him and Smith r the 2 guys i really didnt want miami to sign.

so your in the crowd that is banking on a rookie making a big splash. that aint gonna happen in philbins offense. Matthews will get all the reps if Hartline is not here. bank on it. They believe in working your way into the role. If we ended up with someone like Terrence Williams it would be the same thing.

There is only one rookie though who could and his name is Ryan Swope.

[PlexGod]

Jordy Nelson only had 6 TDs his first 3 years in the league with one of the best QBs of our era throwing it to him, what explains that?

cuz he was the 3rd and 4th guy on the team then thats y... he wasnt the #1 guy like hartline was this year. since then look at his numbers.... post a 15 Td season... something Fartline wont ever even sniff (pun intended). Nelson in one season has scored more TDs then fartline has his whole career.

[PlexGod]

so your in the crowd that is banking on a rookie making a big splash. that aint gonna happen in philbins offense. Matthews will get all the reps if Hartline is not here. bank on it. They believe in working your way into the role. If we ended up with someone like Terrence Williams it would be the same thing.

There is only one rookie though who could and his name is Ryan Swope.

id bet money that if they tell fartline to F off and draft a 1st round WR like patterson or allen he will be day one #2 wr next to either jennings or wallace. Even if he fully earned it or not if we draft a WR early its his job.

[enigmatics]

Just to play devil's advocate:

What explains his lack of TDs prior to last season then? He had Marshall on the other side of him in 2010 and 2011 and still didn't score much. I know, I know- the QB play was spotty at best and downright atrocious at worst in those years, but still. If you take another look at the highlight clips from last season you'll see that Hartline had the opportunity to score at least another 5 times. Tannehill overthrew him on a couple of those opportunities, but as CK recently said, at least part of that can and should be attributed to Hartline's lack of deep speed and Tannehill needing to be ridiculously precise due to it. Other times, Hartline simply failed to make any sort of play to get into the end zone when there was a clear chance to. For that matter, the one touchdown reception he did have almost wasn't one even though he was as wide open as any NFL receiver will ever be.

Marshall WAS the offense. They forced the ball to him, especially in the red zone.

[39wildman]

even w hartline or wallace , jenning ... they still need 1st or 2nd rd wr in mix.... why not get best wr in draft....make bess 4 wr on team. find another te to help out fasona.. or f/a pass rusher... let smith walk and up grade the cb position in draft or f/a... bottom line is our offense never help defense out...we need score point first... defense good but not great....

[Fin Fan in Cali]

even w hartline or wallace , jenning ... they still need 1st or 2nd rd wr in mix.... why not get best wr in draft....make bess 4 wr on team. find another te to help out fasona.. or f/a pass rusher... let smith walk and up grade the cb position in draft or f/a... bottom line is our offense never help defense out...we need score point first... defense good but not great....

Bro my concern with Bess is he finished the second straight season on the IR.

[AFCMiamiEast]

cuz he was the 3rd and 4th guy on the team then thats y... he wasnt the #1 guy like hartline was this year. since then look at his numbers.... post a 15 Td season... something Fartline wont ever even sniff (pun intended). Nelson in one season has scored more TDs then fartline has his whole career.

I do not understand your animosity to a player who came into training camp 23 pounds underweight from severe surgery (he had an interview about his experience that would send chills down your spine), and busted his ass off to get back into shape and amount to over 1,000 yards under an entirely new offense, head coach, offensive coordinator, and quarterback. If you are in favor of letting him test free agency, feel free to express it...but the way you trash him like he is some underachieving crack baby bum is a tad distasteful.

[Fin Fan in Cali]

id bet money that if they tell fartline to F off and draft a 1st round WR like patterson or allen he will be day one #2 wr next to either jennings or wallace. Even if he fully earned it or not if we draft a WR early its his job.

Bro please keep this peaceful. Thanks, John

[fanfin]

His weight was 199 lbs and to say he dropped 30lbs down to 169 lbs is just not true

he was able to gain most of that weight but it was reported he lost 30 lbs due to his appendectomy.....