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    Originally Posted by beast_mode
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    I can't believe the negative-nancy Ireland bashers on this board. A few points for you all to consider:
    - Ireland has not yet lost any starters that are due to hit free agency. Having said that, I think it's very smart for him to let them hit free agency so that he doesn't end up overpaying them before the market dictates their value. IMHO, chances are that many of the free agents the dolphins are interested in re-signing will be disappointed with their market value and will re-sign with the fins on reasonable terms. Of course we will lose a few like maybe Bush, Matt Moore, McDaniel but it seems Jeff has a priority plan so that we end up with value players on the roster.
    - Furthermore, the money that he saves on players not re-signed will be allocated to players in free agency that better fit our needs. Like a difference-maker WR for example. Yes he will have to overpay for this type of player, but it's still value in the sense that it fits better with what our new coaching staff is trying to do. He will also go after some value players like he did in the past with Randy Starks, Anthony Fasano, Cameron Wake, Matt Moore, Kevin Burnett; All free agents and trades that didn't break the bank in terms of cap or draft picks but turned out to be solid starters or better.
    - We still have the very deep (by all accounts) draft where we have 9 picks, 6 of which are in the first 3 rounds. I am very excited about this, in part because of how this last draft turned out. How many of the players drafted do you all think should make the team and have an impact? I would conservatively say about 5 or 6 including UDFA's.
    So between resigning our own FAs going by priority, picking up a few free agents that better fit our system, and being in good position in a deep draft, there's plenty to be optimistic about. I commend Ireland for putting us in this situation and I'm pretty confident he'll do well in the coming months based on what he's done recently, including having found us a possible franchise QB.
    So on one hand, he deserve credit for not letting free agents go. On the other hand, he deserves credit for letting free agents go. Outstanding.

    This thread turned out great, highly amusing.

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    I will remember you TeddSlimmJr and Spesh, after we win it all, I'll just sit back and laugh with fond memories of my superior football IQ.

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    Originally Posted by Spesh
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    So on one hand, he deserve credit for not letting free agents go. On the other hand, he deserves credit for letting free agents go. Outstanding.

    This thread turned out great, highly amusing.
    Why is that a mindset to belittle?

    You can't let them all go and you can't keep them all.

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    Originally Posted by Spesh
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    So on one hand, he deserve credit for not letting free agents go. On the other hand, he deserves credit for letting free agents go. Outstanding.

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    Stupid.

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    Originally Posted by ToeJam & Earl
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    Thumbs down to you also Speshy. If people want to act like a dick, so will I.

    Just seems like anytime there is praise or a positive vibe for this team the same clown car shows up to throw pies in the face of people and belittle them.

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    The "clown car" line was classic, I might have to use that one in the future.

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    Originally Posted by ToeJam & Earl
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    Thumbs down to you also Speshy. If people want to act like a dick, so will I.

    Just seems like anytime there is praise or a positive vibe for this team the same clown car shows up to throw pies in the face of people and belittle them.
    Pick a side, You either think Ireland is going to get it done or you don't. We'll see who has the pie on their face by the end of next season. Sorry it's hard to get a positive vibe even in this situation when the only support the guy has to stand on are excuses. I'm not going to sit hear and beat the anti Ireland drum, but i completely understand those people who do.

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    Originally Posted by ToeJam & Earl
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    Ireland does deserve praise for getting the Fins into this situation. He has spent the past couple of years cleaning up the mess that Sparano and Tuna left him. Jeff has only been in charge of the football department since the 2011 offseason and it takes time to get this team in a position with a lot of cap space and a lot of high draft picks. Sure the team has been mediocre on the field since Ireland took over in 2011 but they have been in cap hell and never been in a position to have so many value draft picks in the upcoming draft. So long to Sparano and Tuna's guys like Long and Smith, this is now Ireland and Philbin's team and Miami enters this offseason in great shape.
    How conveinent that Ireland was not responsible for the cap situation lol he was just here
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    you must be kidding me he sucks and he will never build a good team watch jeff will some how screw this up we are a joke and he needs to go there is a reason we are always around 500 and the cap space should tell you something what a joke this guy is just like trading v/davis and just like getting marshall who can"t cove anyone

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    Some good points by Armando even though I don't care for some of his articles.

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    I'm betting that we blow this draft and FA - just as we have every year since Ireland has been here. Not wanting to re-sign any of your high draft picks or FA's you brought in tells me you stink at your job / make bad decisions on players. Think about that - for every guy Ireland picked but then wants to low-ball or not re-sign is an admission of failure. How do you build through the draft if you are trading away your early picks 2 or 3 seasons later or not re-signing your top selections, etc? That's not building through the draft... The cap space is what it is - let's see how well we do spending it. My bet is we spend a ton on one FA WR - Wallace or Jennings and use the rest on "value" players. Oh - and the impact of Wallace or Jennings will be negated by the loss of Bush in terms of # of big plays per year so if the above is "all we do" this offseason we shouldn't expect to be much better than last year.

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    Originally Posted by beast_mode
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    I can't believe the negative-nancy Ireland bashers on this board. A few points for you all to consider:
    - Ireland has not yet lost any starters that are due to hit free agency. Having said that, I think it's very smart for him to let them hit free agency so that he doesn't end up overpaying them before the market dictates their value. IMHO, chances are that many of the free agents the dolphins are interested in re-signing will be disappointed with their market value and will re-sign with the fins on reasonable terms. Of course we will lose a few like maybe Bush, Matt Moore, McDaniel but it seems Jeff has a priority plan so that we end up with value players on the roster.
    - Furthermore, the money that he saves on players not re-signed will be allocated to players in free agency that better fit our needs. Like a difference-maker WR for example. Yes he will have to overpay for this type of player, but it's still value in the sense that it fits better with what our new coaching staff is trying to do. He will also go after some value players like he did in the past with Randy Starks, Anthony Fasano, Cameron Wake, Matt Moore, Kevin Burnett; All free agents and trades that didn't break the bank in terms of cap or draft picks but turned out to be solid starters or better.
    - We still have the very deep (by all accounts) draft where we have 9 picks, 6 of which are in the first 3 rounds. I am very excited about this, in part because of how this last draft turned out. How many of the players drafted do you all think should make the team and have an impact? I would conservatively say about 5 or 6 including UDFA's.
    So between resigning our own FAs going by priority, picking up a few free agents that better fit our system, and being in good position in a deep draft, there's plenty to be optimistic about. I commend Ireland for putting us in this situation and I'm pretty confident he'll do well in the coming months based on what he's done recently, including having found us a possible franchise QB.
    Yes, we have picks and money - but why? Because we are getting rid of starters - those extra picks and money will go towards filling the holes he opened. It's not a difficult task to trade a #1CB for a second-round pick. Should Ireland be 'commended' for that? Nope. Should he be commended for not re-signing guys? Oh wait, he drafted these players who aren't good enough to warrant a second deal. If you open up holes the way Ireland has, you better have extra picks and money. I can't commend a GM for doing these things; they aren't hard, and he's had zero playoff success.

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