IMO we are alot like the Bengals. We had Wanny and he took our team down the toilet. We got our Marven Lewis in Nick Saban and things are changing, He (Saban) is getting his players (Ronnie Brown/Channing Crowder/Travis Daniels with more to come hopefully QB) and getting rid of the guys that are a problem (Still to come) Just as Marvin Lewis got his guys (Carson Palmer/Rudi Johnson) and got rid of the problems (Dillon/Spikes/Warrick). My point is it takes some time, but if you look at the Bengals you can see what a good Coach will do. Just look at all of the top teams Colts, Broncos, Steelers, Panthers, and the list goes on, what do all of them have a good coach and yes good QbÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s. Give Saban a few years to fix all of Wannys problems. We will be 8-8 and beyond soon.