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Thread: MERGED: Deployments Stretching Army, Study Finds/Rumsfeld disputes study

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    Deployments Stretching Army, Study Finds

    Jan 25, 7:11 AM (ET)

    By ROBERT BURNS

    WASHINGTON (AP) - Stretched by frequent troop rotations to Iraq and Afghanistan, the Army has become a "thin green line" that could snap unless relief comes soon, according to a study for the Pentagon.


    Andrew Krepinevich, a retired Army officer who wrote the report under a Pentagon contract, concluded that the Army cannot sustain the pace of troop deployments to Iraq long enough to break the back of the insurgency. He also suggested that the Pentagon's decision, announced in December, to begin reducing the force in Iraq this year was driven in part by a realization that the Army was overextended. As evidence, Krepinevich points to the Army's 2005 recruiting slump - missing its recruiting goal for the first time since 1999 - and its decision to offer much bigger enlistment bonuses and other incentives.

    "You really begin to wonder just how much stress and strain there is on the Army, how much longer it can continue," he said in an interview. He added that the Army is still a highly effective fighting force and is implementing a plan that will expand the number of combat brigades available for rotations to Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The 136-page report represents a more sobering picture of the Army's condition than military officials offer in public. While not released publicly, a copy of the report was provided in response to an Associated Press inquiry.
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    George Joulwan, a retired four-star Army general and former NATO commander, agrees the Army is stretched thin.

    "Whether they're broken or not, I think I would say if we don't change the way we're doing business, they're in danger of being fractured and broken, and I would agree with that," Joulwan told CNN last month.
    Krepinevich did not conclude that U.S. forces should quit Iraq now, but said it may be possible to reduce troop levels below 100,000 by the end of the year. There now are about 136,000, Pentagon officials said Tuesday.
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    I think our deficient troop capacity will have a much greater affect on when we pull out, than "staying until the job is done"
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    If countries like France, Russia, and Germany would support the liberation of Iraq and Afghanistan, then America would not be stretched so thin. I applaud countries like Australia, and the UK for realizing that this is a world wide conflict and the world needs to unit against terror.
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    There's something about this report though that's not getting the attention it deserves. The Army wouldn't be stretched so thin if we weren't still in Kosovo, Bosnia, Serbia, the Sinai Desert, Egypt, many nations in Africa, Korea, Germany, Japan, Italy and on and on and on and on.

    These soldiers either stationed or deployed to these countries are nothing more than a serious mis management of our troops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A_USA_DS
    There's something about this report though that's not getting the attention it deserves. The Army wouldn't be stretched so thin if we weren't still in Kosovo, Bosnia, Serbia, the Sinai Desert, Egypt, many nations in Africa, Korea, Germany, Japan, Italy and on and on and on and on.

    These soldiers either stationed or deployed to these countries are nothing more than a serious mis management of our troops.
    well said... and the proposals to FINALLY restructure the troops in the Euro theater that Clinton initiated are long overdue IMO. Why do we need several full divisions in Germany?
    Rummy said they'll be brought back stateside, and replaced with smaller units that can deploy quicker... but that won't happen for a few more years....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WharfRat
    well said... and the proposals to FINALLY restructure the troops in the Euro theater that Clinton initiated are long overdue IMO. Why do we need several full divisions in Germany?
    Rummy said they'll be brought back stateside, and replaced with smaller units that can deploy quicker... but that won't happen for a few more years....
    Rummy is talking about this right now.

    He seems to be saying this report is full of it.

    Just an FYI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohall
    Rummy is talking about this right now.

    He seems to be saying this report is full of it.
    Go figure
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    Quote Originally Posted by WharfRat
    Go figure :rolleyes2
    He basically said they hire a lot of companies to do studies like this, but they do not have the inside info at hand to make a totally informed report. He also said they do this to get as many opinions as possible.

    Seems like a reasonable explination to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ohall
    He basically said they hire a lot of companies to do studies like this, but they do not have the inside info at hand to make a totally informed report. He also said they do this to get as many opinions as possible.

    Seems like a reasonable explination to me.
    the guy is under contract by the Pentagon....so basically, HE contracted the study, and then didn't give him "the inside info at hand to make a totally informed report".
    Sounds reasonable?
    sounds like he didn't get the resultss he WANTED...and now he's blowing smoke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WharfRat
    the guy is under contract by the Pentagon....so basically, HE contracted the study, and then didn't give him "the inside info at hand to make a totally informed report".
    Sounds reasonable?
    sounds like he didn't get the resultss he WANTED...and now he's blowing smoke.
    To me yes of course it does. The only ppl who have the full inside info would be the Army itself. When the Army gives its report to Rummy then that will be the final say, no?

    I'm not sure why you are making this so complicated.

    We have been hearing for almost 1.5 years now that our troops cannot stay in Iraq. Tell me were those reports right or wrong?
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