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    Quote Originally Posted by LIQUID24
    Overrated

    Vince Young
    Haloti Ngata
    Barrick Nealy - he absolutely sucks, not a "sleeper"
    Derek Hagan - was overrated, now falling into place
    Eric Winston - see above
    Andrew Whitworth
    Greg Eslinger - those that think he can play in any system
    DeAngelo Williams - somewhat overrated
    Jay Cutler - see above


    My underrated list is shorter, I'll do it later.
    I have to disagree about Williams....he showed great vision and great speed and burst.The guy is not overated imo.I can agree with all the other guys tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nopony
    Every thread where there is someone who mistakenly states that Vince Young is a runner, not a passer.

    So, if leading the nation in passing wasn't good enough for you, what is? Being an moderately accurate white guy from a terrible football school?
    Don't even start making this about color. No one is disputing the fact that VY was a great college QB. We're talking NFL potential, and IMO he needs alot of work. Some people are so narrowminded.
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    Underrated:
    Skyler Green
    Gabe Watson
    Nick Mangold
    Cedric Griffin
    Joseph Addai
    Tamba Hali
    D'qwell Jackson

    Overrated:
    Jay Cutler
    Thomas Howard
    Jeremy Trueblood
    Jean-Giles
    Jason Avant (even for how low he is rated now)
    Alan Zemaitis
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    Quote Originally Posted by nopony
    Every thread where there is someone who mistakenly states that Vince Young is a runner, not a passer.

    So, if leading the nation in passing wasn't good enough for you, what is? Being an moderately accurate white guy from a terrible football school?
    "white guy" ??

    Quote Originally Posted by nopony
    Every thread where there is someone who mistakenly states that Vince Young is a runner, not a passer.

    So, if leading the nation in passing wasn't good enough for you, what is? Being an moderately accurate white guy from a terrible football school?
    I trust scouts and personnel people more than stats. I doubt Vince Young puts up those numbers playing for Vanderbilt. I bet Cutler's numbers are even better playing for a more talented team like USC or Texas.

    Quote Originally Posted by HysterikiLL
    Here we go with the Vince bashing again. On a 'completely unrelated topic' did anyone see Donovan McNabb talking today about the poor conception of black quarterbacks? Hmm.
    Saying he's a top 10 talent instead of a top 3 talent is considered bashing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlfin
    I trust scouts and personnel people more than stats. I doubt Vince Young puts up those numbers playing for Vanderbilt. I bet Cutler's numbers are even better playing for a more talented team like USC or Texas.
    Exactly, but that kind of logic is hard for them to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nopony
    I don't think you watched much Vince Young last year.

    Vince Young's passing numbers...

    Comp % - 65.2 Yards - 3036 YPA - 9.3(!) TDs - 26 INTs - 10 Rating - 163.9

    The 1000 yards rushing and 12 rushing TDs are just a bonus.

    For comparison:

    Cutler:

    Comp % - 59.1 Yards - 3073 YPA - 6.65 TDs 21 INTs 9 Rating - 126.07
    you have a lot to learn, young one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dolfan2788
    Underrated:
    Skyler Green
    Gabe Watson
    Nick Mangold
    Cedric Griffin
    Joseph Addai
    Tamba Hali
    D'qwell Jackson

    Overrated:
    Jay Cutler
    Thomas Howard
    Jeremy Trueblood
    Jean-Giles
    Jason Avant (even for how low he is rated now)
    Alan Zemaitis
    I really disagree with one person on that Overrated list. Jean-Giles, to me, made things happen, pulling, getting up field, putting players on their backs. He the biggest standout among the linemen, if any one is overrated its D'Brickshaw, getting beat around the edges, showing he needs to improve footwork. Just my thoughts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlfin
    I trust scouts and personnel people more than stats. I doubt Vince Young puts up those numbers playing for Vanderbilt. I bet Cutler's numbers are even better playing for a more talented team like USC or Texas.
    while i agree that cutler would have better stats at usc or texas, vince young is the kind of talent that would have had vandy in a bowl game or two. young was a magnificent college qb- we don't know what he'll do in the pro's, but don't shortchange his impact as a college qb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phishstix
    while i agree that cutler would have better stats at usc or texas, vince young is the kind of talent that would have had vandy in a bowl game or two. young was a magnificent college qb- we don't know what he'll do in the pro's, but don't shortchange his impact as a college qb.
    I'm not shortchanging him. I'm merely pointing out the fact that stats aren't the only way to evaluate players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedRush99
    Don't even start making this about color. No one is disputing the fact that VY was a great college QB. We're talking NFL potential, and IMO he needs alot of work. Some people are so narrowminded.
    I'm sorry, but if you think color has nothing to do with the overall reaction to Vince Young, you are deluding yourself.
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