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    JT retirement vs. Ricky Retirement

    What difference as it relate to the cap? What was Ricky cap hit when he retired? Or is it totally different because of the suspension.
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    Im pretty sure retired players dont go against the cap...


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    Then why was ricky asked to pay back part of his signing bonus for not full filling his contract?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amars View Post
    Then why was ricky asked to pay back part of his signing bonus for not full filling his contract?
    Because he didn't fulfill his contractual obligations. You sign a contract, whether its for a new cell phone plan or for an nfl football team, you HAVE to obey the rules of the contract for as long as its in effect. Ricky's contract was signed through 2008, he didn't buy out his contract in order to retire, so he was forced, by law, to pay up.
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    Then the same thing will happen with JT?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amars View Post
    Then the same thing will happen with JT?
    Well i dobut Jt retires, JMO. But if he does, he wont be stupid about it. He'd let the team know well before the draft and the FA period is over im sure. JT would buy out his contract as well, so he wouldn't be getting in trouble either. Again, i don't see him retiring. I understand the frustration hes feeling after missing the playoffs, especially after the monster year he had. But thats all i think it is, frustration. He'll be back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amars View Post
    Then why was ricky asked to pay back part of his signing bonus for not full filling his contract?
    Let me see if i can put this in terms you'll understand I payed you in full to suck all the poo out of my septic tank. you only sucked up half the poo. therefore you did not fulfill your end of the agreement either pay me half the money back? Or finish sucking!!!:eek:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saban4prez View Post
    Well i dobut Jt retires, JMO. But if he does, he wont be stupid about it. He'd let the team know well before the draft and the FA period is over im sure. JT would buy out his contract as well, so he wouldn't be getting in trouble either. Again, i don't see him retiring. I understand the frustration hes feeling after missing the playoffs, especially after the monster year he had. But thats all i think it is, frustration. He'll be back.
    I'm pretty sure we only asked Ricky to pay up because of his suspension. You sign an employment contract when you get a new job right? But you can leave at any time if you're unhappy and you don't get penalised for it. JT is in the middle of a monster contract but I wouldn't expect the team to ask for his bonus money back if he retired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saban4prez View Post
    Im pretty sure retired players dont go against the cap...
    See my earlier thread. When a player retires, his base salaries come off the books, but the rest of his amortized bonuses accelerate onto the next year's cap.

    In Jason's case, we would get to take off his $7 million base salary but we would still have to count his amortized bonuses for 2007 plus 2008 and 2009 on our 2007 cap. Exactly how much those amortized bonuses would be is a question for Clumpy or Muck.
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