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Thread: Who Wanted to Draft Dan Marino?

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    Who Wanted to Draft Dan Marino?

    First of all, the Colts' coaching staff wanted to draft Dan Marino. Can you believe that? Their head coach, Frank Kush, had coached Marino at the Senior Bowl before the 1983 draft and fell in love with his arm, his mind, the complete gunslinger package.So when John Elway kept telling the Colts he wouldn't sign with them, no matter what, Kush went to Colts owner Robert Irsay with a simple plea: Forget Elway. Let's pick Marino with our No. 1 overall pick.Irsay shot back a simple warning. Colts assistant Mike Westhoff remembers it sounding like this to Kush: "If you pick Marino, you're fired."
    "I guess that decided that," Marino said Wednesday.The time has come, once again, to say why no one talking about the NFL Draft really has any idea what they're talking about. It's an annual column, one of life's constants through the years, like watching Bob Barker on The Price Is Right.Oh, teams have become more sophisticated in examining players since Marino's draft, because more money is involved. And the people talking in the media about who's stock is rising, and falling, come armed with statistics, indexes, charts, interviews and film breakdown of combine workouts that makes for interesting viewing and reading.But right up there with Newton's Law, Pythagoras' Theorem and Beethoven's Fifth comes this sports principle: The louder someone talks about the NFL Draft, the less they understand it.In a year where ranking three quarterbacks is the story, there's a timeless rock-paper-scissors game of luck involved. It's there in deciding who will survive among recent high picks: Alex Smith, Joey Harrington and David Carr. It was there with the top three picks from 1999: Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb and Akili Smith.It was there when you sit back and listen to the story of the greatest quarterback draft the NFL has ever seen.
    After the Colts, Kansas City was the next team needing a quarterback. It picked seventh. Its coach, John Mackovic, flew in to Pittsburgh three days before the draft and told Marino that Kansas City would either take him or Penn State quarterback Todd Blackledge."He put me through a workout, throwing the ball," Marino said. "Then he went to Penn State and met with Todd."The Chiefs took Blackledge. What, his five-step drop scored higher?"I don't want to say anything, because Todd and I are good friends," Marino said.Buffalo took Jim Kelly, which worked out fine for them. New England took Tony Eason, which didn't. Marino's hometown Steelers took a nose tackle, Gabriel Rivera, and for years Steelers owner Dan Rooney would mutter something about his scouting department whenever he saw Marino.Was it Marino's disappointing senior season? Was it worries about his knee? Was it his Wonderlic score?
    For a while, Marino's Wonderlic number was back in the news again this winter, because Texas quarterback Vince Young reportedly scored a six on the test. Everyone agreed that was low. No one had any idea what it meant, though. Marino had a 13, after all, it was widely reported."I think it was 18," Marino said. He chuckles. "Come on, give me some credit."Does it really matter? Did it ever matter? Marino was smart enough to throw better than anyone, smart enough to form a second career on national TV, smart enough in carrying himself so that years into retirement his name remains the gold standard in South Florida.The New York Jets had the 24th pick. They had talked with Marino before the draft."About family, friends, stuff just to get to know you more," he said.The Jets picked Ken O'Brien. "Who's that?" Don Shula asked his scouting department.That left Marino for the Dolphins and a history lesson for everyone about every draft: Sometimes an owner gets in the way, sometimes a coach misreads the situation, sometimes a scouting department just goes another way and sometimes it's just plain, blind, dumb luck.But if the people whose careers depend on drafting players have such little idea how they'll turn out, how can the people just talking, louder and ever louder, know so much more?
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    Keep this in mind when we all remember just how lucky we were to get Dan..... It seemed to happen not by design, but by luck. If we thought going into the draft that he was that important then we would have moved up to get him. Pure dumb luck, and great for us!!!!
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    The sad thing is if we didn't draft Dan we probably would have won a Super Bowl by now. Don't get me wrong I love Marino and he is the reason I became a Dofan.

    The reason for this outlandish statement is when we drafted him Shula began concentrating completely on the offense thinking that Marino alone could carry us all the way like in 1984. Had we not gotten him, Shula would more than likely have gone defense and offense equally leading to us making it to a Super Bowl and winning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinFanOhMan View Post
    The sad thing is if we didn't draft Dan we probably would have won a Super Bowl by now. Don't get me wrong I love Marino and he is the reason I became a Dofan.

    The reason for this outlandish statement is when we drafted him Shula began concentrating completely on the offense thinking that Marino alone could carry us all the way like in 1984. Had we not gotten him, Shula would more than likely have gone defense and offense equally leading to us making it to a Super Bowl and winning.
    wow no affence but that is the stupidest thing i have ever heard. marino was the only reason we even made playoffs in the 80's and 90's. no marino = the 2006 raiders. we did have a little talent around him but he cant be the whole team. if we could have gotten him a RB the we could have won a few SB's. maybe even another fast WR. but dont think if we didnt have marino, the greatest statistic QB in nfl history, if not the overall greatest IMO, we would have won more SB's. thats nonscence. and dont say he couldnt win the big games because if he had a team then he would have. and in the 84 SB the 49ers had a far superior team than miami's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinidadDolfan View Post
    Keep this in mind when we all remember just how lucky we were to get Dan..... It seemed to happen not by design, but by luck. If we thought going into the draft that he was that important then we would have moved up to get him. Pure dumb luck, and great for us!!!!
    Not luck, faith...
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    People who say we did not win a SB because of Dan don't know what they are talking about. Dan gave us a chance to win every game....he just did not have the players around him to win it.

    I remember Elway telling the Colts he would not play for them ...he was the best thing to ever happen to the Broncos here in Colorado.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roman529 View Post
    People who say we did not win a SB because of Dan don't know what they are talking about. Dan gave us a chance to win every game....he just did not have the players around him to win it.

    I remember Elway telling the Colts he would not play for them ...he was the best thing to ever happen to the Broncos here in Colorado.
    Sure it wasnt Terrell Davis?

    BTW, Elway and Davis are the best example of how a QB alone (even one as good as Marino/Elway) cant win the game alone. But surround one with talent (like Manning now) and whoa, look out.

    Marino didnt prevent us from winning the SB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FinFanOhMan View Post
    The sad thing is if we didn't draft Dan we probably would have won a Super Bowl by now. Don't get me wrong I love Marino and he is the reason I became a Dofan.

    The reason for this outlandish statement is when we drafted him Shula began concentrating completely on the offense thinking that Marino alone could carry us all the way like in 1984. Had we not gotten him, Shula would more than likely have gone defense and offense equally leading to us making it to a Super Bowl and winning.
    I definitely don't agree with your theory as two years prior to Marino's selection we drafted David Overstreet with our first round selection and he was a highly touted RB with a lot of potential. sadly Overstreet was killed before he could prove his worth to the team and help Marino. Two years after taking Marino in 1985 they used the 1st round pick to take a RB from UF Lorenzo Hampton who was highly touted but who ended up being a disappointment. Four years after Hampton in 1989 they had two 1st round picks and their first selection was a highly touted RB from FSU named Sammie Smith. The second pick was Louis Oliver who turned out to be a good S. The players who were selected just prior to and in between these running backs were defensive players except for an offensive guard Roy Foster who was selected from USC.
    Its painfully obvious they selected the defensive players and the running backs but most of those players who were all first round selections just didn't do as well as expected. Dan Marino was in no way responsible for Miami's bad luck in the draft but if all those players had turned out good Marino would have had a lot better team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinidadDolfan View Post
    Keep this in mind when we all remember just how lucky we were to get Dan..... It seemed to happen not by design, but by luck. If we thought going into the draft that he was that important then we would have moved up to get him. Pure dumb luck, and great for us!!!!
    mayb we can get that kinda luck this year
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    I was a little too young at the time, but I'm sure glad we did.
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