Welcome to FinHeaven Fans Forums! We're glad to have you here. Please feel free to browse the forum. We'd like to invite you to join our community; doing so will enable you to view additional forums and post with our other members.



VIP Members don't see these ads. Join VIP Now
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 11

Thread: Conventional wisdom...

  1. -1
    FinHeaven VIP

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    May 2002
    Posts:
    2,734
    vCash:
    2943
    Thanks / No Thanks

    Conventional wisdom...

    If I am not interested in being a risk taker and I am conservative, then the following strategy would likely apply:

    1. take Levi Brown
    2. take a quarterback in the 2nd round
    3. take a guard on the first day
    4. draft at least 3 defensive players (a cb, lb, and defensive lineman).
    5. stay put in every round and collect 10 players.

    This would be the ultimate conservative approach. It is needs based and focused on safe.

    Weigh this with Mueller and his past drafts, the currrent atmosphere in Miami, and the Cameron's offensive and Caper's defensive philosophies. Also, there is player visit information and some of the players I saw had visited fit right into the coaches philosophies (e.g., big interior defensive linemen, taller and bigger outside linebackers, speed in the defensive secondary, multitalented running backs). I do not remember names, but the big guy from Utah (name starts with a T), and the safety from Syracuse are a couple of them. Also, the running back from Arizona that is rising up the charts.

    Real excited about the draft, and wouldn't mind a few surprises on draft day.

    Lee2000
    Quote Quote  

  2. -2
    MastR_EvaluatoR's Avatar
    Seasoned Veteran

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Aug 2006
    Posts:
    824
    vCash:
    1000
    Loc:
    On Top
    Thanks / No Thanks
    Quote Originally Posted by Lee2000 View Post
    Also, there is player visit information and some of the players I saw had visited fit right into the coaches philosophies
    Player visits mean absolutely nothing .. First off, There are countless examples where a team had absolutely no contact with a player but was drafted by them ( IE- Jay Cutler drafted by Denver, after the draft he said Denver didn't even make a simple phone call to him , or inquire about him even once) .. There are tons of other similar examples ..

    And secondly, even if the team wanted to see a player, alot of the time that player already has a busy schedule prior to draft time with other committments .. Therefore, the team wouldn't even get the interview, but instead go with 3rd and 4th options to interview other players - when the reality is the team will still draft the player that couldn't make it in for a visit anyway because they just think he's better..

    Your thread title states - "conventional wisdom" . Well conventional wisdom has proven time and time again that player visits mean little if anything when it comes down to it.. So take player visits with a grain of salt..
    Quote Quote  

  3. -3
    Seasoned Veteran

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Jan 2007
    Posts:
    681
    vCash:
    1000
    Thanks / No Thanks
    no wrong quinn!
    Quote Quote  

  4. -4
    Pro Bowler

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Aug 2005
    Posts:
    1,443
    vCash:
    1000
    Thanks / No Thanks
    Don't you think it would be surprising enough just to see the Dolphins actually draft 10 players?
    Quote Quote  

  5. -5
    3rdandinches's Avatar
    Seasoned Veteran

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Mar 2006
    Posts:
    6,395
    vCash:
    4302
    Loc:
    Lah, lah land
    Thanks / No Thanks
    To be conservative is going to end being the most realistic approach to the draft. I have a million and one different trade ideas as does everyone else but I would be happy with our teams direction if we drafted the following :
    1-L. Brown OT
    2-M.Mcauley CB
    2-Best QB
    3-M.Ramirez/A.Alleman OG
    4-BPA the rest of the draft
    Quote Quote  

  6. -6
    Finfanforever's Avatar
    Finfanforever

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Jan 2005
    Posts:
    1,288
    vCash:
    1348
    Loc:
    St. Petersburg, Fl.
    Thanks / No Thanks
    Conventional Wisdom says to draft 3/4ths OFFENSE! DL-aged but still effective LB's -pro bowlers straight across DB's- this group could use some help.

    Offense on the other-hand...
    QB: Biggest question mark on the team...all we have now is a broken-high priced EX-star that may never recover...and a LEMON!
    RB: If Ricky can stay away from the bong, this group looks good although I would look to add someone day 2.
    WR/TE: We need some SPEED...BAD! Booker nor Chambers is capable of stretching a defense.
    OL: At least 2 starters needs to come out of this years draft!
    Quote Quote  

  7. -7
    NashPhin's Avatar
    Run the Ball. Stop the Run.

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Oct 2004
    Posts:
    384
    vCash:
    1000
    Loc:
    Nashville, TN
    Thanks / No Thanks
    I like your thinking here, but I agree with zonk4ever that I would be very surprised to see us stay put and use all 10 of our picks. I believe there will be a lot of movement in the middle rounds to get our targeted players using those later round picks.

    For once, though, I would like to see this team use high picks on o-linemen. The o-line has been a constant problem for this franchise since Webb and Simms were in their prime on the left side.
    Quote Quote  

  8. -8
    Green Phin's Avatar
    Starter

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    Apr 2007
    Posts:
    434
    vCash:
    1000
    Thanks / No Thanks
    The problem with your mock is that it's too logic. The draft is like the stock market, it is based on perception more than reality. Perception depends on the views of GMs/Coaches/Owners more than anything and we won't know them until after the draft.
    :dunno:
    Quote Quote  

  9. -9
    FinHeaven VIP

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    May 2002
    Posts:
    2,734
    vCash:
    2943
    Thanks / No Thanks

    If I may clarify...

    My thread was not an indication of what I want, but was more a reflection of what I thought such an approach would be. I am not conservative, but I would like to see moves that gain more picks, and allow more aggressive moves upward.

    Lee2000
    Quote Quote  

  10. -10
    FinHeaven VIP

    Status:
    Offline
    WPA:
    Join date:
    May 2002
    Posts:
    2,734
    vCash:
    2943
    Thanks / No Thanks

    Player visits is more of an indication of an idea of a player...

    Quote Originally Posted by MastR_EvaluatoR View Post
    Player visits mean absolutely nothing .. First off, There are countless examples where a team had absolutely no contact with a player but was drafted by them ( IE- Jay Cutler drafted by Denver, after the draft he said Denver didn't even make a simple phone call to him , or inquire about him even once) .. There are tons of other similar examples ..

    And secondly, even if the team wanted to see a player, alot of the time that player already has a busy schedule prior to draft time with other committments .. Therefore, the team wouldn't even get the interview, but instead go with 3rd and 4th options to interview other players - when the reality is the team will still draft the player that couldn't make it in for a visit anyway because they just think he's better..

    Your thread title states - "conventional wisdom" . Well conventional wisdom has proven time and time again that player visits mean little if anything when it comes down to it.. So take player visits with a grain of salt..
    Many times players are not available to teams. But the idea of a kind of player is involved in visits. Visits are not completely useless.

    Lee2000
    Quote Quote  

Similar Threads

  1. Wisdom of the Crowd
    By rob19 in forum Science & Technology
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11-15-2012, 03:57 PM
  2. In his wisdom....
    By thedayafter in forum Miami Dolphins Forum
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 07-30-2011, 08:39 AM
  3. Wildcat <<<<<<<< conventional offense
    By ZILLA in forum Miami Dolphins Forum
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 11-20-2009, 10:35 AM
  4. wisdom teeth
    By dolfan_101 in forum The Lounge
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 06-24-2008, 11:14 PM
  5. Wisdom can be hindsight...
    By Lee2000 in forum Miami Dolphins Forum
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 09-28-2005, 02:22 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •