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    Humans need not apply.



    What is the solution when virtually every job can be replaced by a computer?
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    The solution is make less babies. With less population, more technology is beneficial, and even required.

    The problem is the overpopulation. There will never be enough jobs, (or resources) if we keep going like this. We're top of the food chain, an apex predator. Biologically, there's absolutely no reason to continue to procreate like a species that has a short life span and is running from other predators. We are not rabbits.

    Other top species have learned this. Even if biologically, every member of the clan can procreate, not all always do. For example wolves revolve around one top mating pair at a time, they don't all procreate in the same season. You don't want to out-pace your resources in the environment.


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    Maybe we should stop sending all of our jobs to China.
    We have these short sighted A--holes like Romney who think it is good to send the manufacturing overseas not thinking it through that no one can buy the crap that is made over seas because no one has a job.
    Because all the jobs were sent over seas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyB View Post
    The solution is make less babies. With less population, more technology is beneficial, and even required.

    The problem is the overpopulation. There will never be enough jobs, (or resources) if we keep going like this. We're top of the food chain, an apex predator. Biologically, there's absolutely no reason to continue to procreate like a species that has a short life span and is running from other predators. We are not rabbits.

    Other top species have learned this. Even if biologically, every member of the clan can procreate, not all always do. For example wolves revolve around one top mating pair at a time, they don't all procreate in the same season. You don't want to out-pace your resources in the environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAYHEM View Post
    Maybe we should stop sending all of our jobs to China.
    We have these short sighted A--holes like Romney who think it is good to send the manufacturing overseas not thinking it through that no one can buy the crap that is made over seas because no one has a job.
    Because all the jobs were sent over seas.
    The whole point of the video is that those manufacturing jobs are disappearing. They are not coming back. Chinese laborers will be replaced by machines just the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyB View Post
    The solution is make less babies. With less population, more technology is beneficial, and even required.

    The problem is the overpopulation. There will never be enough jobs, (or resources) if we keep going like this. We're top of the food chain, an apex predator. Biologically, there's absolutely no reason to continue to procreate like a species that has a short life span and is running from other predators. We are not rabbits.

    Other top species have learned this. Even if biologically, every member of the clan can procreate, not all always do. For example wolves revolve around one top mating pair at a time, they don't all procreate in the same season. You don't want to out-pace your resources in the environment.
    It still does not provide a solution to all the working adults out there now.

    What are we going to do when the nation's truck drivers are out of work? These are people with a special license and skill, not your average Blockbuster employee. What about the last remaining auto manufacturing jobs? People working in these fields today will be out of work by the time they retire. What are we going to do when hospitals trim their staff down to a handful of the most specialist doctors and the nurses and orderlies all disappear?

    It is a terrifying proposition that is inevitable. We are going to live in a world where a majority of the people in the world are unemployable. Even those high-skilled jobs are going to be replaced by these self-learning computer systems.

    Are we going to have make-work jobs, or are we going to put more people on assistance?
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    http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42183592/n.../#.U--08mP4L7s

    Some more examples of jobs that will be gone soon. What will we say to those highly qualified, impeccably degreed pharmacists? What are we going to tell the nation's military when they replace soldiers with bots?
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    Perhaps it's the beginning of the end of scarcity, an interesting concept that is the subject of some science fiction novels. In theory, it's a good thing that robots or some form of obedient AI can pretty much do everything for humans, to the point that we're basically arguing over how to divy up real estate. But at the same time perhaps we get lazy to the point that there's no incentive for any sort of real creativity.

    Kind of like a friend of mine jokes that humanity's biggest mistake was domesticating the dog instead of monkeys or chimpanzees. Over thousands of years of selective breeding, the richest and poorest of humanity could have monkey butlers, and they could do many of the most dangerous jobs that heavy industry requires. (Please, no Planet of the Apes jokes). True, it would have meant no coal miners, but until recently, and perhaps even still, being a coal miner is a dangerous job that coal miners formed unions so their kids didn't have to be coal miners.

    As another aside, AI will probably even make some lawyer jobs obsolete. Right now, big law firms give very good jobs to young attorneys to essentially review tens of millions of pages of documents for a single case. A company has come up with an algorithm that basically does the job of many of these attorneys in finding the documents relevant to the case. It's good for the clients whose legal bills will be smaller, and good for the court system as a whole. It's bad for many would be lawyers though.
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    Perhaps we should solve the border issues before we worry about making fewer babies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDog 88 View Post
    Perhaps we should solve the border issues before we worry about making less babies.
    That won't replace the problem of too many Lazy Americans who rather bitch and complain since its much easier than hard work.
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