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Thread: Merged: Dolphins Trade Satele to Raiders for 6th round pick and swap 4th round picks

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    Quote Originally Posted by fairbanksb View Post
    Berger? His bio says he has only played in 7 games.
    how many years did James Harrison play 0 games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lbmclean_sj View Post
    how many years did James Harrison play 0 games?
    James Harrison? You have me confused. James Harrison the LB? or is there another one? What does a LB have to do with having a backup center? Satele can be used as a guard and be a proven backup should Grove get hurt. Who would be Grove's competition in camp if we trade Satele?
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    what does one NFL player have to do with another?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fairbanksb View Post
    James Harrison? You have me confused. James Harrison the LB? or is there another one? What does a LB have to do with having a backup center? Satele can be used as a guard and be a proven backup should Grove get hurt. Who would be Grove's competition in camp if we trade Satele?

    Proven? he has proven that he isnt strong enough. Im not saying im not ok with keeping him as a b/u. I would not toot his horn like we got two starter level C's and he isnt replacable. Depth in our OLine is a nice luxary and I am not against it but if we can fill a need in our starting line up by trading him, I am more in favor of that.

    Why does Grove need competition to play good football? Also if Satele was legimate competition we would of not signed Grove for the money that we did.


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    I agree, they could let him compete for guard opposite Smiley. even if he doesn't start, you can keep him for depth. chances are, he'll play at some point during the season. if he builds some strength, maybe he can help.
    however, if it's true that he is good just not not a proper fit and never will be, then it's best to trade him for what you can get.
    everyone saw him play hurt along side backups so I don't think he would be written off so easily. someone would want him and I think they could get better than 5th round pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elliott 1 View Post
    Minnesota not only lost Birk but Childress has said he wants to bring another QB into camp.

    Minnesota would also have nothing to lose really in trading places with the Dolphins in the 1st round as they don't share the same interests in draft picks with either of the two teams between us.

    I could see Satele and Beck and maybe our 5th and 7th for Minnesota's 2nd rounder and trade places in the 1st round. That way the Dolphins will pick ahead of NE in the 1st round.
    I could see that too if I were on the same LSD that you were when you saw it.

    There is no way in hell a team would give us a 2nd for those 2 players, much less swap first round picks with us as well. Perhaps we could package those guys for a 5th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lbmclean_sj View Post
    good point, I wonder if we could get a 5th for him?
    Hopefully something better than a 5th
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    Quote Originally Posted by 67Stang View Post
    So then we go and spend money on another QB? Penny made it through last season, but has been injury prone through out his career. Why get rid of Beck who already knows the O? Why upset a good QB situation?
    He knows the O? How do you know? Have you seen him run it? And if you have seen him run it, were you convinced he knows it when watching?

    On top of that, even if he knows the offense, has he suddenly become capable of holding on to the football when not trying to throw it? Better yet, can he now receive the snap 60 times without dropping it twice? If he can now do those 2 things, can he actually execute a throw without it going straight up in the air, end over end, and fall right into the lap of a Bills linebacker for a TD? Hell I know the offense pretty well, but I sure as hell couldnt execute it in the league. Neither can John Beck last time I checked.

    Finally, removing Beck in no way upsets our QB situation at all. We have Pennington starting and Henne to back him up. Behind Henne we have an emergency QB(Ronnie maybe, hopefully Pat White soon) and should Pennington go down for the year we sign a vet to back him up. Thats the situation whether Beck is on the roster or not. And dont say it isnt because Beck isnt active for games.

    The one thing I will agree with you on is we do indeed have a good QB situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WVdolphan View Post
    He knows the O? How do you know? Have you seen him run it? And if you have seen him run it, were you convinced he knows it when watching?

    On top of that, even if he knows the offense, has he suddenly become capable of holding on to the football when not trying to throw it? Better yet, can he now receive the snap 60 times without dropping it twice? If he can now do those 2 things, can he actually execute a throw without it going straight up in the air, end over end, and fall right into the lap of a Bills linebacker for a TD? Hell I know the offense pretty well, but I sure as hell couldnt execute it in the league. Neither can John Beck last time I checked.

    Finally, removing Beck in no way upsets our QB situation at all. We have Pennington starting and Henne to back him up. Behind Henne we have an emergency QB(Ronnie maybe, hopefully Pat White soon) and should Pennington go down for the year we sign a vet to back him up. Thats the situation whether Beck is on the roster or not. And dont say it isnt because Beck isnt active for games.

    The one thing I will agree with you on is we do indeed have a good QB situation.
    I agree how can some people one moment say we should get rid of a backup o linemen but go crazy if someone suggest that we get rid of a third string qb?
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    Come on guys, are we seriously doing this again? This is not a Beck thread. Lets not make it one.

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