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Thread: The Self-Destruction of Barack Obama

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    The Self-Destruction of Barack Obama

    President Obama has lost his 2012 bid for re-election.
    He has made key decisions in three areas that, unless he alters his approach (not likely), could well guarantee a Republican victory: an embarrassingly rolled-out, badly-compromised health-care reform bill; his continuing slavish subservience to those on Wall Street that took the country into the economic toilet; and his sad imitation of CheneyBush's imperial campaign in Afghanistan.
    (Obama's only hope for 2012 may depend on Sarah Palin getting the GOP nomination. Even better if Glenn Beck or Dick Cheney is her running mate -- tickets, I'm appalled to say, that have been mentioned seriously. The Democrats can only hope to face such Republican candidates.)
    If Obama goes down to defeat in 2012, he could take with him any hope for a major revitalization of American democracy after eight years of wrack and ruin under CheneyBush. And Obama's own Democratic majority in Congress might well suffer, perhaps quite badly, at the polls in November of 2010.
    Yes, yes, I know that Obama's only been in office for a month shy of one year, and dumping on the guy may seem way early, especially given the humongous mess he inherited from his disastrous predecessor, and the vicious, destructively partisan warfare being waged by the Congressional Republicans. Still, as we approach the New Year, some summarizing truths need to be spoken now, and loudly, if we are to gain anything from the current situation in the way of possible alterations of course that can still be made.

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    In truth, he already said that reelection is far less important than accomplishing certain things in his first term... admirable...
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    In the last year perception has changed, but not much else.....the economy is still what's going to determine the '12 election. If two years from now we have 10% unemployment then Obama will need someone like Palin running against him to have a shot at reelection.
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    ...a good point... he doesn't have to win in 2010 or 2011... let's see where we are before we make broad declarations about what the future holds...
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    Quote Originally Posted by poornate View Post
    In truth, he already said that reelection is far less important than accomplishing certain things in his first term... admirable...

    There's nothing admirable about the Health care bill. Even Michael Moore, Howard Dean and Dennis Kucinich argee on that one.





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    The whole purpose of Palin is to ensure an Obama victory in 2012.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poornate View Post
    In truth, he already said that reelection is far less important than accomplishing certain things in his first term... admirable...
    people don't admirer admirable anymore, they like corrupt, fast talking, my gun's bigger than your gun types.. Intelligent and morals are a lost art..I now see why politicians don't mind doing crooked things, they're applauded for it..
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    Knowing that it was political suicide, where's the admiration then for President Bush for sticking by his principles in maintaining the hard right over the easy wrong?

    He knew what was going to happen and yet, he continued to stay a course that wasn't popular. No admiration for his principles as I recall.

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    I guess that depends on whether you see what his goals were as admirable... as far as the Health Care bill.. as far as I am concerned, wishy-washy politics and compromise have turned it into a sham... if it passes without the public option... well? The public option is the only ****ing point...
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    Barrack the magic liar, Obama is banking on America's short term memory. He was hoping to have his agenda passed by August to save seats in his party but it got stalled thanks to the tea party group and people like Sarah Palin. They're efforts have probably fell short of stopping this from going through but they did delay it long enough to keep it fresh in the voters mind come election time. I do not think we will see a landslide voctory and a power shift to the GOP but what we will see is balance. Obama will not enjoy the lop sided voting base he had in both houses and he will not be able to bulldoze legislation through as he currently can. We will shift back to a postion of stalemate between the partys which imo is the healthiest place we can be. What is very sad is the tone the Barack the magic liar, Obama has set in Washington for an unprectidented level of partisanship. He is going to find it remarkably difficult to get his republica counter parts to reach across the aisle and embrace compromise for the remainder of his office.


    Those of you on the left who cheered for him to reform healthcare got played like a bunch of suckers. Barack the magic liar, Obama's main objective was not about a single payer system. Ideally perhaps that might of been his preference but the goal was to expand govt control over us. His agenda will be fullfilled once this bill is signed into law. Once that is done both partys will embrace it and the arguments will no longer revolve about if we need it but in which areas we need more intervention to improve its delivery. Politicans will campagin on promises made to demographs that they want to buy votes from. They will promise lower prescription costs to one group over another or lower copays or whatever the attractive bait of the day is to dangle in front of the voter they are wooing. That is how this game works!


    The idea that the republicans have acted as obstructionists is laughable. Barrack the magic Liar has done nothing to extend his hand across the aisle and reach out for any bi-partisanship. He backed the republicans into a corner and gave them nothing to save face on with the voters. He has shown no willingness for compromise. His postion has been The GOP has screwed us over and I am going to fix it without their interferrence. Don't get me wrong I am not fan of the GOP and they are only victims of their own devices. I blame as much as I do the democrats for the mess this country is in. They blew the opprotunity they had when they had it. They showed America that they are no less corrupt when they hold the dominant postion. They went crazy with out of control spending and pork filled bills that only benefited the pockets of those in their click.


    To those of you that think sarah Palin is Obamas greatest hope for re-election. Dont kid yourselves. She is Obama's worst nightmare. Depending on how they each ran their campaghin would really dictate the winner and depending on the general mood of the country will also be a huge factor. These things are too far out to judge right now. The fact is she represents the exact opposite of Obama and if she leads the polls in the primarys she will not be a Ross Perot type that divides the party vote. She will take the republican vote by landslide margins. It will not matter what ticket she runs under. She will have the power of the GOP voting base behind her along with a split between moderate voters between her n Barrack the magic liar. The difference will be in who energizes their base more. Barrack won because GOP voters stayed home feeling disillusioned by their represenitives and Barracks voting base was energized in huge numbers under the illusion that they were voting for hope and change. Sarah Palin is the GOP's icon for that same ideal. This election will be like every other election who shows up to the polls.


    There is a standard cookie cutter approach to American politics. Scare your base into turning out. The GOP will be selling gloom n doom for our country if Barrack and the democrats retain power. They will lead us to finacial ruin and socialism. The Democrats will sell us gloom n doom too. It will be focused on corporate America abusing the workers and the rich getting richer while the poor get poorer. They will tell us the direction of America will be a cruel and heartless one. That will be the choices we will have presented to us.


    Both partys are full of crap and are full of liars, just like the OP's thread. Its all a bunch of propaganda and I for one am sick of both of them. Just once I would love to see a party stand up and say you know we all agree and even though the other guy brought this to the table first we support it. And just once I would like to see it be something that is good for our country. Just once I would like to see politicans put their greed asise for the welfare of our nation.


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