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    Progression or Regression: Dolphins secondary

    THE NEW: Five rookies were added. CB Nolan Carroll (fifth-round pick), S Reshad Jones (fifth-round pick), CB A.J. Wallace (undrafted rookie), DB Ross Weaver (undrafted rookie), SSJonathon Amaya (undrafted rookie) are all competing to make the 53-man roster.
    THE DEPTH CHART: CB Ė Vontae Davis, Will Allen, Evan Oglesby, Nolan Carroll, A.J. Wallace; CB Ė Sean Smith, Jason Allen, Nate Ness, Ross Weaver; FS Ė Chris Clemons, Reshad Jones; SS - Yeremiah Bell, Tyrone Culver, Jonathon Amaya
    THE BREAKDOWN: The Dolphins have kept five or six cornerbacks and four safeties on the 53-man roster the past two seasons. They generally keep two more defensive backs on the practice squad, and this season likely will see the same.
    There are a tone of new faces in the Dolphins secondary, but none of them are established NFL players. And even fewer have a respectable body of work (maybe Reshad Jones does) which hints itís a certainty theyíll be immediate contributors at this level. Even though replacing Nate Jones with a healthy Will Allen should upgrades the nickel spot, itís irresponsible to justify that this unit has progressed.
    While Davis and Smith will likely hopefully improve now that theyíve got a yearís worth of experience under their belt, itís highly likely that Wilsonís replacement at free safety (Clemons, Reshad Jones or Culver) will experience some growing pains as a first-year starter. Until one of this unitís young newcomers proves he can contribute more to the secondary than Jason Allen has the past few seasons the Dolphins secondary has to go into the regression category. But thereís tremendous potential for growth across the board.
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    "It happens all the time," Taylor said. "It's not an exact science and personnel guys aren't the end-all, be-all. " Jason Taylor,2011
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    The secondary will get better as they get experience. We have two very young corners who have great skills. Also, we have safeties that are young and we have a pro bowler at the other safety.
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    Gibril Wilson is gone. How could that make us worse?
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    Super ****ing dumb. We're replacing Wilson with Culver or and improved Clemons = upgrade; Davis comes into his 2nd year = upgrade; Smith comes into his 2nd year = upgrade; Y. Bell is still Y. Bell; and W. Allen or N. Jones? = upgrade. Not seeing the secondary regression. Add to that, Nolan's secondaries look much better than PP's secondaries year in and year out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j-off-her-doll View Post
    Super ****ing dumb. We're replacing Wilson with Culver or and improved Clemons = upgrade; Davis comes into his 2nd year = upgrade; Smith comes into his 2nd year = upgrade; Y. Bell is still Y. Bell; and W. Allen or N. Jones? = upgrade. Not seeing the secondary regression. Add to that, Nolan's secondaries look much better than PP's secondaries year in and year out.
    Pretty much captures it. There is of course a realistic worst case scenario, but the realistic worst case scenario would involve the Dolphins secondary being the same as a year ago because (for whatever reason) Smith and Davis make zero progress, Will Allen post-ACL is no better (or worse) than Nate Jones, and Tyrone Culver (or Chris Clemons) is the same as Gibril Wilson. I have a hard time believing all that.
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    without wilson its definitely progression
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    Do writers get off on creating drama??? We're looking at one of the best Dolphin teams we've had in a long time, and all I see nonsense like this. What's up with that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hemidemon View Post
    Do writers get off on creating drama??? We're looking at one of the best Dolphin teams we've had in a long time, and all I see nonsense like this. What's up with that?
    No, but they get paid to do it.
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    Irresponsible to justify that this unit has progressed? Bull****. Wilson was terrible last year, he's gone. Davis and Smith shown promise, but they did give up a lot of big plays as well, but now they have a full year under their belt. Add in that our best CB, who just so happened to be having a career type year, is back. There's nowhere for this unit to go but up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R&R Express View Post
    Irresponsible to justify that this unit has progressed? Bull****. Wilson was terrible last year, he's gone. Davis and Smith shown promise, they gave up a lot of big plays as well, but now they have a full year under their belt. Add in that our best CB, who just so happened to be having a career type year, is back. There's nowhere for this unit to go but up.
    I agree, there's nowhere for this group to go but up.
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