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Thread: LeBron James...PROOF that Loyalty DOESN'T MATTER...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhinsPhan11 View Post
    You're right, Lebron will always be remembered like that if he wins a championship. It'll be he won, but he had help.
    Go thru the past NBA champions and bring me the one guy who didn't have a lot of help surrounding him. Bring me the one guy who won a title with a similar team to LeBron's. Show me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    Go thru the past NBA champions and bring me the one guy who didn't have a lot of help surrounding him. Bring me the one guy who won a title with a similar team to LeBron's. Show me.
    Michael and Chi 1991-1993, Duncan and SA 1999, Hakeem and Hou 1994, Kobe and LA last year, ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyjunc View Post
    Michael and Chi 1991-1993, Duncan and SA 1999, Hakeem and Hou 1994, Kobe and LA last year, ...
    Scottie Pippen. Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli. Kobe had Gasol who was an All-Star without Kobe. Hakeem is about the only legitimate one you can really point to BUT that Houston team had an extremely deep bench. Sam Cassell was the sixth man for Christ's sake. And Otis Thorpe was beasting on dudes back then. This was also before the hand-check rule so the big men were still dominating. So Hakeem and Thorpe were just BRUTAL on teams. Not to mention Jordan was no where to be found.

    Of the ones you mentioned, Jordan is one with the most help.
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    By the way, you're saying that the Bulls of Jordan's time, the Spurs, the Lakers and Rockets were similar to the Cavs lol. So with all of those teams there was one superstar with a bunch of scrubs lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    Scottie Pippen. Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli. Kobe had Gasol who was an All-Star without Kobe. Hakeem is about the only legitimate one you can really point to BUT that Houston team had an extremely deep bench. Sam Cassell was the sixth man for Christ's sake. And Otis Thorpe was beasting on dudes back then. This was also before the hand-check rule so the big men were still dominating. So Hakeem and Thorpe were just BRUTAL on teams. Not to mention Jordan was no where to be found.

    Of the ones you mentioned, Jordan is one with the most help.
    Early Pippen was considered soft and he didn't have much else outside of Pippen.

    Parker and Ginoboli were not on that '99 SA team. he had an old, declinging David Robinson, Sean Elliott, Avery Johnson, Mario Elie, etc...

    Cassell was a rookie who played 17 mins a game. It was hakeem and a bunch of role players. Otis Thorpe was nothing more than an average player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    By the way, you're saying that the Bulls of Jordan's time, the Spurs, the Lakers and Rockets were similar to the Cavs lol. So with all of those teams there was one superstar with a bunch of scrubs lol.
    Yeah. One superstar and some good role players around them. Considering the NBA hasn't seen a trulyt great team in a long time a team w/ Lebron in his prime and the collection of players around him should have been able to win a title.
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    The Jordan teams were great. As were the Spurs. You can't say that they aren't great because those were dynasties. A dynasty is greatness. The Lakers are on the verge of another one. Yes, they are great teams. You can't call Scottie Pippen, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli role players when they've all been all-stars multiple times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    The Jordan teams were great. As were the Spurs. You can't say that they aren't great because those were dynasties. A dynasty is greatness. The Lakers are on the verge of another one. Yes, they are great teams. You can't call Scottie Pippen, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli role players when they've all been all-stars multiple times.

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    The Jordan Bulls were a dynasty b/c of Jordan. The 2nd 3-peat they had alot more talent but the 1st 3-peat did not but he was at his peak and no one could stop him or that team b/c of him/

    The Spurs in '99 had marginal talent and a superstar in Duncan. That team would win again until 2003 so that was not a dynasty team.


    This Laker team is turning itno a dynasty- more b/c of how bad the rest of the league is. This is NOT a great team.
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    But Cleveland IS a great team right lol? I mean with Jamario Moon and Mo Williams and all of those other stars.

    The Spurs won four titles in under ten years. That's pretty dynasty-esque. Same coach, same superstars for the most part. That David Robinson guy was just marginal I guess lol. He was on that list of 50 greats as well. Marginal. Gotcha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JCane View Post
    But Cleveland IS a great team right lol? I mean with Jamario Moon and Mo Williams and all of those other stars.

    The Spurs won four titles in under ten years. That's pretty dynasty-esque. Same coach, same superstars for the most part. That David Robinson guy was just marginal I guess lol. He was on that list of 50 greats as well. Marginal. Gotcha.
    Cleveland will be a playoff team.

    From '03-'07 the Spurs had a dynasty, '99 isn't included. you cannot go 4 years btw titles and claim a dynasty.

    David Robinson was not a great player by the time 1999 rolled around. he was as much a star as Shaq was for Cle last year.
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