Last edited by swampdonkey; 06-26-2013 at 01:45 PM.
All this rhetoric about how the older players would never team up is nonsense. Larry bird was trying to recruit Jordan to come to Boston when he was becoming a free agent.
Trust me. Lebrons hate nowadays is nowhere near it was two years ago. He wins a couple more titles and he will become more and more a fan favorite. After its all said and done, after he's retired, people will reflect on his decision and realize it was the smartest move he made in his career. Only a small small petty minority will hold on to that insignificant fact in order to detract from his greatness. People always romanticize the long retired players.
I think it's fun to debate who was the best. Does it really matter? of course not, does any of this stuff really matter? it's all for fun or it's supposed to be.
Magic has 5 and reached 9
Magic was my favorite player but he's not Michael and he admits this. Jordan is on another level from those 2, Lebron and others.
Hey Guys... By the Way Lebron is 28 with 2 Titles, 2 Finals MVP, and 4 MVPS. And he is getting better every season FG % and 3 pt %.... This is just getting started ladies and gentleman ENJOY THE RIDE for the greatest player of this Era. yes that includes Kobe
How would you know? Lebron was there for seven years & they never had championship caliber teams. In the 3 years since Lebron left (in which Dan Gilbert guaranteed heíd win a championship before Lebron), the Cavs will have had a top-five pick for the 3rd straight year, 4 times overall, & the very first pick twice. By all indications, it would appear that Dan Gilbert is committed to losing & not paying any luxery tax.Originally Posted by Nyjunc
You saw in 2007 it wasnít enough. I donít know why youíre so cocksure that Dan Gilbert wouldíve turned a new-leaf to pony-up & gotten him some superstar help, or that a superstar (or two) would even want to go to Cleveland.Originally Posted by Nyjunc
They didnít just look good, they were good. 57 games in 93í with Jordan, & 55 games in 94í without him.Originally Posted by Nyjunc
Jordan got drafted into a better situation than Lebron. If Jordan gets drafted by some historically bad franchise like the Clippers, Hornets, Nets, or CavaLols, who know how his career turns out. Maybe he only wins 1 ring instead of six. Maybe heís forced to switch teams in order to actually compete. He saw his chance to win titles & he seized it. I donít hold that against Lebron.Originally Posted by Nyjunc
Thatís pretty dumb. What if Lebron goes 6 for 8 in the finals? Do you hold it against him that he actually made it to the finals more than Jordan? Are you actually saying his legacy would be better if he had not made it to the finals wit the Cavs? Thatís like saying youíd hold it against Tom Brady if he went 4 for 6 in Superbowls because Montana went 4-0. Itís nonsense.Originally Posted by Nyjunc
anyhoo, I've wasted enough time discussing the matter. Heat are the champs!!! We have the best player of this generation and are going for a 3peat. Times are good.
NBA champs in '93 w/ Jordan, 2nd rd exit in '94 w/o him.
Jordan got drafted into a terrible situation, an awful team and franchise. Jordan would have turned around any franchise.
Yes, losing 2 finals is losing 2 finals. Jordan would have 8-10 titles if he didn't retire multiple times.
Brady at 3-2 is worse than Montana at 4-0 and even if Brady wins another he still has 2 losses on his resume. That's a major reason why Montana is probably 1 and Brady 2 or 3 all time.
I sound ridiculous to YOU b/c you are a homer and can't deal w/ reality. That doesn't bother me.