How did he suck against SD and Indy/ if he sucked there's no way we beat a team as good as SD on the road and there's no way we lead Indy on the road in the 2nd half of the title game if buttfumble sucked.
You can look at stats all you want but buttfumble made plays to win at SD, I suggest you go watch a tape of the game then get back to me.
So stats lie when he has good #s but when he makes plays to win and his stats aren't great then stats tell the truth?
Yeah, it was just all the Colts DB. buttfumble didn't give a great fake and freeze one of the best pass rushers in the game to buy time to get that ball to Edwards.
So when Indy goes into prevent and buttfumble gets some #s it doesn't count but when the same happens to henne that shows how great henne is Our O began to struggle when we lost Shonn Greene on the first drive of the 2nd half, we had no threat of a running game and we struggled. He was a ROOKIE QB. What he did in postseason was damn impressive.
You guys can fool yourselves all you want but the man walked in w/ zero pressure and the first time he faced reall pressure to win in december he struggled.
Vinny led us to an 0-4 start in '03- how did he handle it?
Mirer didn't buckle under any pressure, no one expected him to be Vinny '98- he was just a terrible QB.
Exactly, Lucas took over when all was lost just like henne then when we needed a couple of wins he performed poorly against Indy and NYG then w/ the pressure off again at 4-8 he won his last 4 starts. Excellent comparison.
Maybe his worst starts of the season is a bit of an exagerration but if they weren't his worst they were right near the top for worst performances by him all year.
I don't care if you think I sound samrt, you are being a homer defending your QB. I am being objective. I never said henne sucks, I have said he had a good 1st year and I think he'll be good but the facts are he came in w/ no pressure in September and when the games were biggest for Miami he played poorly. You can rationalize it any way you want to but the bottom line is buttfumble played his best in our biggest games and henne didn't in Miami's biggest games.
You obviously didn't watch the playoff games if you think he was just along for the ride.
I love the excuses knocking Cincy and SD(one of the kicks he missed was a 57 yarder). Do you apply that same thinking to the AFC Title Game loss? Our kicker missed 2 of 3 kicks or does it only count if our opponents kicker misses a kick?
This is where reading comprehension comes into play. I never said buttfumble was better, I have stated over and over and over that henne had a better overall year but I also stated a fact that in their teams biggest agmes buttfumble came through and henne didn't. I'm sorry the truth offends you.
Love how he brazenly skips over posts he can't argue with.
"I didn't understand it from this philosophical standpoint, but I understood it from the point of when you blame other stuff on people or you blame things on other people, that it takes the power to change those things out of your hands and puts it in their hands."
Playing poorly in the first half is one thing. If your defense is worth a damn then they'd keep you in the game no matter how the offense is playing. Going down 21-0 at home in the first quarter is awful no matter how you slice it.
I understand you don't like to look at stats as a barometer of how a player is playing. But to me there is no other way to judge a player then to do just that. You say buttfumble was a lot better and more important than his numbers indicated......
A lot better at what? The spiral of his passes? How gently he grabbed his crotch to adjust the jockstrap? How loud his snap counts were? It's always about the numbers. The numbers are the game.
buttfumble was better last year...
No doubt in my mind...
But not by much....
I think overall Henne is a better prospect..
buttfumble already has injury concerns..Not good for a qb...
one of buttfumble's best attributes is his mobility...
I know that he has had some knee problems...Minor of course but that could be something to look for in the upcoming years...
Our D was the reason we lost alot of games last year...Not Henne..
Henne played well in some big game and played poor in some other games..
Pressure on him meant nothing IMO...