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Thread: time to look at our drafts under parcells

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    time to look at our drafts under parcells

    Last edited by afishfan; 12-20-2010 at 02:50 PM. Reason: screwed up
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    Quote Originally Posted by afishfan View Post
    and Ireland and Sparano
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    Long, V.Davis, S.Smith, and Misi are the only ones who have panned out. 4 in three years is pathetic
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    We did have to completely rebuild the defense. That does seem to be working out pretty well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by afishfan View Post

    well i was going to list all the players but that got screwed up when i posted......but in reality what we see above is what we have ANYWAYS after their first 2 drafts (ill give them a pass so far on this year....its too early to pass judgement)

    despite the fact we had an additional first rounder that everybody seems to continue to forget about AS WELL AS an additonal 2nd rounder that RANDY MUELLER obtained for us in the fantastic chris chambers trade AND the NUMBER ONE OVERALL PICK IN THE DRAFT

    we came away with Jake Long and Kendall Langford.....thats a complete joke folks for a team picking first in each round AND several additional picks in the draft!

    in year two again with an additonal second rounder obtained by trading away our former DPOY Jason Taylor and several additonal 5 rounders we came away with Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, Brian Hartline and Chris Clemons... i would say that Clemons and Hartline are very replaceable as they are average NFL players at best at this point. same could probably be said of Smith.

    so thats not really saying much after two drafts that had MUCH MORE AMMUNITION going in than any normal draft....so neither of these drafts can be compared to an average year.....we simply had way more picks and were picking in very favorable postions. and essentially came away with nothing.

    in addition they got rid of a guy that should have been the answer for us on the strongside at OLB in Matt Roth for ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. and the guy most likely to make a big play and find his way to the end zone for this team despite all the hate among fans who were wrong about the guy (ted ginn) simply because he was picked ninth and we didnt draft brady quinn.....well that turned out to be the CORRECT CHOICE didnt it? in fact if you look at that draft there are only a few players that we should have taken in front of Ginn.....but we had so many holes we needed to create an identity...Ginn was to help in that new offensive philosophy by spreading the field vertically (which by the way would have been FAR MORE SUCCESSFUL then the current bull**** we watch). we got rid of him for nothing.

    my contention would be that Randy Muellers ONLY draft in Miami was better than ANY of Parcells drafts have been....and that includes ****ing up with john beck.....but guess what...AT LEAST THEY TOOK A SHOT....at least we know they had him above brady quinn! ..... wel guess what....we didnt have Henne ABOVE john beck.....so it was a COMPLETE fail to take Long BEFORE you take your franchise QB.....in addition look at ALL the QBs in that Mueller draft NOBODY was any good.....nobody panned out.....so look at the rest of that draft. Mueller did a better job than these guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valandui View Post
    We did have to completely rebuild the defense. That does seem to be working out pretty well.
    i would agree....but i would also caution that this defense isnt as good as people think it is. we dont have any playmakers besides Wake on the ENTIRE defense. they dont create turnovers and since WE NEVER WORK WITH A CONSIDERABLE LEAD teams are never forced to open up against us....where the defense backs up and gives up some garbage yards etc.....there hasnt been a single game all year like that. so i would say 5th ranked defense is a little bit of an illusion....Mike Nolan has done an absolutely incredible job. what happens if he leaves? does this defense REALLY have that much talent? i dont believe it does. not one playmaker in the secondary (maybe rashad jones who is on the bench) no depth in the secondary at corner.....a hole at middle linebacker still with Crowder....just lacks a couple playmakers....but much improved certainly....did they do as good a job at rebuilding the defense that Jimmy Johnson did in TWO years tho???? NOPE....NOT EVEN CLOSE
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